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joe_stampingbull

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21. I haven't seen any evidence that russia could pull it off

Fri Jan 20, 2023, 11:31 PM

Jan 2023

It is too complex for them to pull it off successfully. It reminds me of the 3 day plan to win at the beginning of the war.

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Putin's Secret Attack Plan Would Be Ukrainian Nightmare [View all] WarGamer Jan 2023 OP

I don't see sources confirming Umerov as being a key insider Kaleva Jan 2023 #1

So you don't believe any of his claims? WarGamer Jan 2023 #2

May God help Zelensky and his people. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #3

Many of us saw this coming. WarGamer Jan 2023 #5

Maybe this is why no one wants to give Zelensky tanks? Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #6

I see so many historical comparisons. WarGamer Jan 2023 #8

You and I know enough WWII military history to know what this sounds like. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #11

Sad. Just dreadful. WarGamer Jan 2023 #12

Why do you think NATO won't help Ukraine win this? Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #13

Two possibilities WarGamer Jan 2023 #14

The experts I have been listening to seem to think Putin is just threatening nukes. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #16

Every time I see thermobaric I read it as thermobarbaric. JanMichael Jan 2023 #46

+ 1 nt pazzyanne Jan 2023 #20

I doubt it InstantGratification Jan 2023 #30

It's not about artillery. It is about whether or not NATO will support Ukraine. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #34

Is the guy sn insider or not? He looks to be a low level member of Parliament Kaleva Jan 2023 #43

NBC story re: massive build up in Belarus. WarGamer Jan 2023 #4

If "preemptive strikes" were good enough for Israel in the 60s, they should be good for NATO now. nt Samrob Jan 2023 #7

I'm sure NATO is thinking... thermonuclear global war or "targeted strikes" WarGamer Jan 2023 #9

They are over thinking. Target their nukes and have at it. Either that or democracy dies Samrob Jan 2023 #24

From the same group that planned the initial 3 Day invasion of Ukraine. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #10

It is what Stalin did very successfully in WWII against the Germans. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #15

Stalin had the US supplying him weaponry and the Soviets were on home turf. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #17

Russia has occupied parts of Ukraine, so it is home turf to some extent. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #19

+1. Putin knows the West's love for Ukraine has a shelf life and is not unlimited dalton99a Jan 2023 #22

Putin is banking on this. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #23

That is a terrible bet, as the US and NATO resolve will not break. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #27

I hope you are right. How Ukraine uses weapons is not the issue. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #33

Putin orangecrush Jan 2023 #29

To the contrary, Russia has used up much of their conventional military capacity and they Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #26

As I said above. Tactics are not the major issue. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #35

Absolutely untrue. The US and our NATO allies have been and will continued give Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #39

The US and NATO have dragged their feet just giving Ukraine enough weapons to keep fighting. Lonestarblue Jan 2023 #18

Not remotely factual. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #40

I haven't seen any evidence that russia could pull it off joe_stampingbull Jan 2023 #21

Same. I'm skeptical that they have the personnel, arms or organization to do this LymphocyteLover Jan 2023 #25

Without wishing to tempt fate, nor have I. Emrys Jan 2023 #32

+1 excellent points. The GOP support of Russia bronxiteforever Jan 2023 #45

In the end, realpolitik means any prospective Putin allies have to ask themselves Emrys Jan 2023 #50

All Putin needs to do here is trick Ukraine away from Crimea. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Jan 2023 #28

YAWN orangecrush Jan 2023 #31

If Putin wins the war in Ukraine, it is the final chapter in the Cold War. Putin wins. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #37

Putin is losing the final stages of the Cold War--and quite badly. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #41

I hope NATO feels the same way. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #42

Clearly, they do. All the countries of Europe understand the threat--and especially those that Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #56

It's worth considering for a minute what "taking control" of Eastern Europe Emrys Jan 2023 #47

Putin wants to be a global superpower, but first must get regional control. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #49

Putin is barely in control of the Russian Federation! Emrys Jan 2023 #52

Did Germany relent and give Zelensky the tanks overnight while I was sleeping? Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #53

OK, sidestep my other comments because they don't fit in with your gloomy world view. Emrys Jan 2023 #55

Sweden is sending some stuff... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #58

The US and NATO are giving and have been giving Ukraine what they need ahead of the moment Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #57

I hope Putin thinks we have stopped arming Ukraine Captain Zero Jan 2023 #38

Europe is going to be forced to decide if they will allow Russia to take one of their countries. Renew Deal Jan 2023 #44

If it's the subject of a news article how big of a secret could it be? marmar Jan 2023 #48

WarGamer I think I figured out one possible scenario. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #51

wish there was some way to talk to the prisoner regiment Takket Jan 2023 #54