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Johonny

(21,136 posts)
41. Not really
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 06:46 PM
Feb 2023

The Wall is semi-autobiographical. Is Pink really Roger . . . well, yes and no. The Band members have talked extensively about the subject. But in context of other things Roger has said and done, one does wonder if Roger's very heavily covered inner fears of his inner fascist does get the better of him at times just as it gets Pink. As Rick Wright said, The Wall was like a therapy session for Roger that he needed to do, but Rick didn't feel he really needed to do it


If it wasn't for the Nips
Being so good at building ships
The yards would still be open on the Clyde
And that can't be much fun for them
Beneath the rising sun
With all their kids committing suicide

Sure, in context of the character, dropping the slur Nips seems natural. But the rest of the Floyd wasn't dropping a lot of racial slurs like that in their songs. It's a very Roger thing. You get a pass that it's art and the perspective of a character to some point, but once you start putting the star of David on your inflatable pig (offensive on several levels), people do get to reexamine things. And the Wall is semi-autobiographical. Where Roger ends and Pink as just a character begins is very blurred.




Animals GGoss Feb 2023 #1
Dogs Fullduplexxx Feb 2023 #3
LOL GuppyGal Feb 2023 #43
She aint wrong! jcgoldie Feb 2023 #2
Yup, remember David played Live Aid, and Waters stayed home Johonny Feb 2023 #9
I always came down on Gilmour's side of the feud, now I remember why. catbyte Feb 2023 #4
Roger has always been my man... Ferrets are Cool Feb 2023 #5
I agree underpants Feb 2023 #6
It sucks when an entertainer crosses that line into something you can't respect jcgoldie Feb 2023 #8
Yep, Clapton is another right wing asshole. lark Feb 2023 #14
Yeah, Clapton. ... Sigh. Sky Jewels Feb 2023 #24
Yeah I had hoped he had learned jcgoldie Feb 2023 #33
Yeah, I lost all respect for Clapton. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2023 #27
I love his past song writing, but disdain and can't stand the man he has become. lark Feb 2023 #12
There are several musicians like that for me. yardwork Feb 2023 #26
Ditto Ferrets are Cool Feb 2023 #28
lip synching, not that GusBob Feb 2023 #7
His voice is shot Zambero Feb 2023 #10
I dunno, some of his pandemic videos he still sounded pretty good for his age Hugh_Lebowski Feb 2023 #17
Those video's were fantastic...especially his two backup singers. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2023 #21
Gilmour and Wright were the better vocalists Zambero Feb 2023 #23
Bazinga. lark Feb 2023 #13
I've always liked Pink Floyd, but Waters is a dick. Definitely with Gilmour on this. themaguffin Feb 2023 #11
Sigh... (More Here): GGoss Feb 2023 #15
I don't ForgedCrank Feb 2023 #16
I don't have a huge problem with Water's prickly nature myself Hugh_Lebowski Feb 2023 #18
Remember this thread from last spring - highplainsdem Feb 2023 #20
I do remember it ... Hugh_Lebowski Feb 2023 #29
I could not have stated it better. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2023 #22
Totally agree with your assessment, H_L. Sky Jewels Feb 2023 #25
Well said. Every word of it. Earth-shine Feb 2023 #31
I had generally assumed he chose Putin's version of events because Gilmour Johonny Feb 2023 #34
Prickly nature, eh? EX500rider Feb 2023 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Feb 2023 #19
Roger Waters flew pig balloons with Stars of David Danmel Feb 2023 #30
Lyrics to Waiting for the Worm not exactly Jewish friendly Johonny Feb 2023 #35
uh.....I think you missed the context of The Wall cbdo2007 Feb 2023 #37
Exactly ... side 4 of the album (and esp. in the movie) has Pink portrayed as a drugged-out fascist Hugh_Lebowski Feb 2023 #39
Not really Johonny Feb 2023 #41
I would tend to read it as he has problems with how Israel as a country conducts business Hugh_Lebowski Feb 2023 #40
Yeah, it may have been.. anyone who Cha Feb 2023 #32
Zappa called it. He jammed with them once in 1969 then claimed to forget ever happened. tirebiter Feb 2023 #36
Good for her. Behind the Aegis Feb 2023 #42
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