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pnwmom

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Sat May 6, 2023, 10:52 PM May 2023

GRAPHIC IMAGE: What the reports on Allen TX aren't showing us. TRIGGER WARNING [View all]

Last edited Sun May 7, 2023, 11:11 AM - Edit history (11)

ON EDIT:

Another DUer, Susan Calvin, has found a few-second video of the still image that was taken down. She posted it at #75, linked to here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217889914#post75


ON EDIT:

CBS NEWS, about a girl: "I pulled her head to the side and she had no face."

Yesterday a photo and video showed some of the carnage, but Twitter has since taken it down, even though the photo had been blurred so that individuals couldn't be identified. (I didn't watch the video.) It showed at least one small child and several other bloodied bodies clumped together on the ground outside a store. Here's an article from the British The Daily Mail that describes some of the horror seen by Steven Spainhouer, one of the first on the scene..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12056461/Hero-cop-took-Texas-mall-shooter-call-backup-shot-dead-gunman.html


'The first girl I walked up to was crouched down covering her head in the bushes, so I felt for a pulse, pulled her head to the side and she had no face.'

He said she was already beyond saving.

Still set on saving the mess of victims, Spainhouer recalled how he then found another child, who survived the barrage of bullets by being covered by his protective mother, who he said was among eight to die by the gunman.

Spainhouer added: 'When I rolled the mother over, he came out.

'I asked him if he was OK and he said, 'My mom is hurt, my mom is hurt.'

'Rather than traumatize him any more, I pulled him around the corner sat him down and he was covered from head to toe. [It was] like somebody poured blood on him.'





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A photo taken from a video that's on Twitter right now. Unlike Cooper (Ex: Nat’l Finance Chair of Draft Biden; LI Campaign Chair for Barack Obama; Majority Leader Suffolk Legislature) I haven't looked at the whole video.








Joseph Sakran
@JosephSakran
There is a video circulating that shows the bodies outside the mall from #allentx. It’s horrific to say the least.

As a Trauma Surgeon, we often are witness to the #AmericanCarnage that results from bullets on the human body.

Maybe Americans need to see the carnage.

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Jesus.....should be shown everywhere. OAITW r.2.0 May 2023 #1
I agree. gopiscrap May 2023 #3
No... it's not our country. Anymore. It's theirs... the ammosexuals own this country. nt albacore May 2023 #14
AmeriGuns sarcasmo May 2023 #36
Ammosexuals....that name needs to stick to those assholes. BComplex May 2023 #73
"Ammosexuals"--- I like that word, almost more than "MAGAts" ! DemocraticPatriot May 2023 #108
Candoidates running homegirl May 2023 #96
it's time. mopinko May 2023 #2
Rec'd for the awful truth. n/t Mister Ed May 2023 #4
It's what people are asking to see sarisataka May 2023 #5
Since the faces have been blurred out, it doesn't seem to be an invasion of privacy. pnwmom May 2023 #10
I don't think it should be taken down. crickets May 2023 #12
It depends on sarisataka May 2023 #13
Good point, but the OP followed the rules. crickets May 2023 #20
I believe it will be removed from Twitter, before here. MerryBlooms May 2023 #18
Why would it be removed from Twitter? Frasier Balzov May 2023 #41
Absolutely horrific. crickets May 2023 #6
Yes -- similar images did help end Vietnam. nt pnwmom May 2023 #11
I agree. And I think it's important Deuxcents May 2023 #17
It took more than that. Straw Man May 2023 #119
I said "help." They "helped" stir public outrage in a way that verbal discussions did not. nt pnwmom May 2023 #120
Non-verbal "public outrage" is mostly unproductive. Straw Man May 2023 #123
. WhiskeyGrinder May 2023 #19
Having lived through the very next sentence in my post. nt crickets May 2023 #22
People say that a lot, but it's not exactly quantifiable, nor has it been replicated. WhiskeyGrinder May 2023 #68
Agreed. I think we underestimate the ability to most people to compartmentalize... Caliman73 May 2023 #137
I remember the public horror as the images started to be shown. pnwmom May 2023 #23
Why blur the faces? The families and friends of the dead wnylib May 2023 #39
But others won't, and need to see this. The families don't have to look at the images pnwmom May 2023 #74
It is naive to think that the families wnylib May 2023 #99
The families won't accidentally view photos behind sensitivity warnings on Twitter pnwmom May 2023 #100
I think we HAVE TO look. We HAVE TO. calimary May 2023 #45
I'm repped by R's, particularly nasty ones, at that... slightlv May 2023 #60
My Mother was a student and on the drag Texasgal May 2023 #63
Yeah. You really DON'T get over it. calimary May 2023 #101
Well, the only answer that makes sense to me is to share the pain. Share the witness. calimary May 2023 #102
It's horrible ornotna May 2023 #7
It's more than horrible, but there just aren't any words that are strong enough...... groundloop May 2023 #32
Agreed ornotna May 2023 #42
GQP will attack the showing of the video. roamer65 May 2023 #8
Every time they claim this, perhaps the blood money amounts should be publicized. crickets May 2023 #15
☝️ Deuxcents May 2023 #46
Depends central scrutinizer May 2023 #25
+1000 roamer65 May 2023 #37
Some of those victims might have been strong supporters of guns in society. Frasier Balzov May 2023 #44
Kick dalton99a May 2023 #9
every year hundressd or more fake murdered people shown in tv/movies etc. nothing wrong with msongs May 2023 #16
Ever notice in those films and TV shows wnylib May 2023 #49
Thank you for saying what I wanted to say. MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #67
That's why there's a trigger warning. No one is being ambushed with the photo. pnwmom May 2023 #78
These people had no "trigger warning"....why should we? OAITW r.2.0 May 2023 #21
I've shopped at that mall Skittles May 2023 #24
A gentle hand on your shoulder. It's like a normal place you know suddenly filled with deadly electric_blue68 May 2023 #159
As I remember the tv stations started listing the names ages and home towns of all the troops killed Srkdqltr May 2023 #26
Casualty lists have been a staple feature of war reporting ... Straw Man May 2023 #118
WTF?!?! The GOP is KILLING US!!! TeamProg May 2023 #27
WISH people would protest in the streets vapor2 May 2023 #28
They won't. roamer65 May 2023 #30
horrific. looks too awful to be real. Like a movie set BlueWaveNeverEnd May 2023 #29
Yes. If the source was anonymous I wouldn't have posted it. nt pnwmom May 2023 #33
Atrocity orangecrush May 2023 #31
No words. they need to show it because it's the only way it will ever stop. Joinfortmill May 2023 #34
God damn it. LisaM May 2023 #35
Kick. G.D. Media have whitewashed countless murders so that they appear entirely victimless. usonian May 2023 #38
The mass killing by machine gun on a street party in Vegas was medias greatest gun coverup. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #94
I'm torn Johnny2X2X May 2023 #40
Shock therapy, yes. Obviously nothing else will work Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #95
The murderer was dressed in full tactical gear... BigmanPigman May 2023 #43
What a guy. dchill May 2023 #56
Head shot, groin shot, Fla_Democrat May 2023 #111
When did this happen? h2ebits May 2023 #47
It happened Saturday, May 6, in Allen, TX. It's been all over the news today. pnwmom May 2023 #51
the kind of people who WOULD commit these sorts of crimes... WarGamer May 2023 #48
We need more people to be horrified, and to act on that horror. nt pnwmom May 2023 #52
Emit Tills mother showed unbelievable strength and courage with her decision Deuxcents May 2023 #50
That was her decision. Straw Man May 2023 #64
For the good of the nation we need to see this. The Jungle 1 May 2023 #85
So we should add to these families' torment ... Straw Man May 2023 #98
The images on Twitter are behind sensitivity warnings, and here, too. pnwmom May 2023 #104
It doesn't matter. Straw Man May 2023 #105
They don't know what people are viewing. It might not be their loved ones at all. pnwmom May 2023 #106
If it were my loved ones ... Straw Man May 2023 #107
I do have that right as a citizen. They chose to go in a public place pnwmom May 2023 #109
They didn't chose to be murdered. Straw Man May 2023 #112
When an attack occurs in the PUBLIC SPHERE, it's not the same as if it occurs in your HOME. pnwmom May 2023 #113
You just don't get it, do you. Straw Man May 2023 #114
What do you mean "you don't get to make that choice for others"? pnwmom May 2023 #115
To be blunt, I believe you overstep the bounds of common decency ... Straw Man May 2023 #116
"Anyone who doesn't know what guns do to a human body is suffering from a deficit of both pnwmom May 2023 #121
No. They know. Straw Man May 2023 #122
Ok then what will work The Jungle 1 May 2023 #127
I don't have one. Straw Man May 2023 #134
It worked for the Till family and it worked in Vietnam. The Jungle 1 May 2023 #139
The Till family gave their consent. Straw Man May 2023 #141
You still offer no solution The Jungle 1 May 2023 #142
And you're still wrong. Straw Man May 2023 #145
Straw man The Jungle 1 May 2023 #146
I'm exaggerating nothing. Straw Man May 2023 #148
You have no expectation of privacy in public. The Jungle 1 May 2023 #150
Yes, you've said that multiple times. Straw Man May 2023 #153
Every 15 hours more families die. The Jungle 1 May 2023 #154
Where do you get this "15 hours" figure? Straw Man May 2023 #155
Thank you for helping me get the word out. The Jungle 1 May 2023 #156
There are millions of women who are R's who support them and they're not all hunters. nt pnwmom May 2023 #131
Some are. Straw Man May 2023 #132
There are independents who could be influenced, just like there are pnwmom May 2023 #135
Give it up. Straw Man May 2023 #136
This was posted at around noon. 45 posts so far that disagree with you. The Jungle 1 May 2023 #157
45 that say the families' feelings shouldn't be considered? Straw Man May 2023 #158
Thanks for helping The Jungle 1 May 2023 #160
Mean while down on the farm. The Jungle 1 May 2023 #126
We have a national disaster occurring every 15 hours The Jungle 1 May 2023 #125
You have no expectation of privacy in public The Jungle 1 May 2023 #124
That didn't take long. kaotikross May 2023 #53
As usual they cherry pick which Ten Commandments you'll adhere to MagickMuffin May 2023 #58
To be fair, "Thou shalt not kill" wasn't very important to God, either. Mariana May 2023 #152
If it weren't for one photo that got past the gatekeepers usonian May 2023 #54
Hyperbole ... Straw Man May 2023 #117
Absolutely horrific but only a fraction of the horror & torture they felt in their final moments nt Quixote1818 May 2023 #55
This is about 3 miles from my house. We shop there and often work JCMach1 May 2023 #57
Awwww! blueinredohio May 2023 #59
And, meanwhile, in Columbus. . . pnwmom May 2023 #61
It's gone. BWdem4life May 2023 #62
I just noticed that.....Elon is hiding evidence groundloop May 2023 #70
Thank you. Twitter removed the photo and tweet. America's slow roll holocaust must end. ancianita May 2023 #65
Show it all. Break people from their zombie gun trance. kairos12 May 2023 #66
Ki k! burrowowl May 2023 #69
Looks like the tweet is gone now. NotVeryImportant May 2023 #71
Please let us know if the clip shows up somewhere else. It could be a wake-up call. TheRickles May 2023 #72
It was just posted at #75 below. pnwmom May 2023 #77
I may have found it or something like it. Susan Calvin May 2023 #75
YES -- thank you. This is a few seconds worth of the still image that's been deleted. nt pnwmom May 2023 #76
Please save the video and/or get a screenshot. Susan Calvin May 2023 #79
I tried but I can't figure out how to. nt pnwmom May 2023 #81
Try pausing the video and then Susan Calvin May 2023 #82
I got it. Susan Calvin May 2023 #84
That one has been TAKEN DOWN as well for violating Musk's rules. groundloop May 2023 #133
Did anybody read the comments? Alliepoo May 2023 #80
No words ... KnR MiHale May 2023 #83
All this blood is on the hands of the right. The Jungle 1 May 2023 #86
These images need to be shown, every single day until something is done to rid our streets of guns Lettuce Be May 2023 #87
We need to see this and own it. This is an American "problem." #1 public health Crisis. Evolve Dammit May 2023 #88
We've been down this road before, and Republicans are well aware of it. CW: GRAPHIC PHOTOS, VIETNAM NullTuples May 2023 #89
I remember these. I remember when they debated pretty seriously about showing the one guy getting SWBTATTReg May 2023 #90
In Drivers Ed, so long ago, did you ever see those grisly vehicular "accident" films? Backseat Driver May 2023 #91
They didn't have drivers ed at my school, and that's good -- pnwmom May 2023 #92
Sterilizing war, foreign and domestic..is what American media does very well...so it continues. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #93
Sterilizing this horror is a good description. The Jungle 1 May 2023 #130
Need more of this IzzaNuDay May 2023 #97
My Lai, 1968 orangecrush May 2023 #103
We need to publish the pictures. The Jungle 1 May 2023 #128
Agree. orangecrush May 2023 #138
Should this child sarisataka May 2023 #140
Again you say our plan is wrong but you offer not plan. The Jungle 1 May 2023 #143
You didn't answer the question sarisataka May 2023 #144
No one had to see the pictures because they were behind trigger warnings. nt pnwmom May 2023 #147
Here they were behind a warning sarisataka May 2023 #149
The American public needs to see such pictures, on a regular basis. Paladin May 2023 #151
Colin Powell fooled so many for so long. crickets May 2023 #161
I've been saying for years... appmanga May 2023 #110
These pictures need to be on the walls in congress! The Jungle 1 May 2023 #129
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