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Xolodno

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27. And Russians are often viewed as nothing more than Mongols...
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 09:27 PM
Jun 2023

...with lighter skin (which is one of the reasons why Hitler viewed Slavs as "inferior" and in certain areas it still prevails and others, still viewed as savage barbarians). And Russia at the time was nothing more than a collection of Principalities with some claiming to be the rightful heir of the Roman empire (Moscow is often called the third Rome). it was Ivan the Terrible that basically founded the empire when he was crowned Tsar (Cesar), granted Peter the Great made it official.

Whenever I visited Europe and a scammer would come up to me (wearing a Yosemite sweater often means you are a US citizen...and they are right), I would respond in Russian. How fast they jumped back and left me alone was amazing. I still shake my head thinking of when I walked past a statue of Thomas Jefferson and then later crossing a street named after Joseph Stalin in Paris.

And I agree with the other person, you do not march on Moscow and you do not get into a land invasion in China. Moscow for the most part was burned to the ground during Napoleon...but this time, the Russians burned it. In war, you are usually trying to gain resources, you can't gain any if the people you are invading destroy it before you can fully capture it.


And I'll add a third rule, do not get involved in a war in the Mid-East. Sure in the past you could take advantage of old tribal divides, but now they are united against the "Great Satan". Iran, Saudi Arabia and Russia used to be bitter enemies, now they are becoming allies. The world has changed.

Where is Prigozhin? (Poll) [View all] orangecrush Jun 2023 OP
Yesterday, somebody, carrying an umbrella, 3Hotdogs Jun 2023 #1
That wasn't very orangecrush Jun 2023 #2
Hangin' with Waldo? Doc Sportello Jun 2023 #3
... orangecrush Jun 2023 #4
Mistake was to withdraw.. Historic NY Jun 2023 #5
Rule 1: Do not march on Muscova jimmy the one Jun 2023 #6
The Mongols did. They burned it to the ground. Kaleva Jun 2023 #7
when it was a town jimmy the one Jun 2023 #9
There's nothing magical about Moscow Kaleva Jun 2023 #11
The Bolsheviks took Moscow after a week of street fighting in 1917 Kaleva Jun 2023 #13
I will rather heed montgomery's advice jimmy the one Jun 2023 #18
Why didn't the Russian air force blow the Wagner forces to kingdom come? Kaleva Jun 2023 #19
see post 6 (no text) jimmy the one Jun 2023 #20
Then why the panic in Moscow? Kaleva Jun 2023 #22
according to who? jimmy the one Jun 2023 #23
Putin looked weak and frightened in his response Kaleva Jun 2023 #32
russia has 2nd most powerful air force jimmy the one Jun 2023 #33
that was advice for foreign invading troops nt Celerity Jun 2023 #24
monty's remarks somewhat applicable jimmy the one Jun 2023 #25
Wagner forces are made up of mostly citizens of Russia Kaleva Jun 2023 #31
Head of Russian AF arrested, possibly Prig supporter jimmy the one Jun 2023 #37
And Russians are often viewed as nothing more than Mongols... Xolodno Jun 2023 #27
Nobody here is talking about NATO marching on Moscow Kaleva Jun 2023 #30
Well that's cherry picking stuff. Xolodno Jun 2023 #34
Instead of cherry picking one part of Montgomery's speech, here a link to the whole speech Kaleva Jun 2023 #36
Probably holed up with his Wagner fighters Kaleva Jun 2023 #8
Cleaning windows at the Federation Tower in Moscow. marked50 Jun 2023 #10
Mar Al Lago. usonian Jun 2023 #12
Taking charge of DeSatan's army in Florida Sancho Jun 2023 #14
Getting shitfaced in Africa. Or an hour outside the Kremlin. Maru Kitteh Jun 2023 #15
Well a lot of people seem to think it was a stunt that Putin was in on jcgoldie Jun 2023 #16
+1000 Celerity Jun 2023 #17
When you fail to kill the king, the king is going to kill you. Mr. Sparkle Jun 2023 #21
+1 orangecrush Jun 2023 #29
Getting ready to fall out of a very high window. 11 Bravo Jun 2023 #26
Elbonia Kennah Jun 2023 #28
A hotel with no windows in Minsk. sarcasmo Jun 2023 #35
On a yacht with an oligarch in the Caribbean. lpbk2713 Jun 2023 #38
Perhaps some answer this poll just for laughs, ironically or sardonically... Silent3 Jun 2023 #39
Disinformation orangecrush Jun 2023 #41
The fact that "Nothing coming out of Russia can be fully believed"... Silent3 Jun 2023 #42
Which piece of him? nt Azathoth Jun 2023 #40
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