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jimmy the one

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33. russia has 2nd most powerful air force
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 01:23 PM
Jun 2023
Putin looked weak and frightened in his response Rather then strong, in control and brutal had he taken out the Wagner forces immediately as you suggest he could have easily done

Weak and frightened? according to who? you? beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I would say putyin was understandably disconcerted, unsettled - not with the fear of 'Moscow Falling' - but that Prig's anabasis would precipitate a domino affect, where other russian forces would mutiny. Perhaps that it why he held off attacking Prig, fear of sparking other russian forces to mutiny.

In June 1941 when Hitler launched Barbarossa invasion of Soviet Union, Stalin was, reportedly, in a high strung state of fright for 2 weeks, likely convinced his soviet army could never stop the so far invincible Wehrmacht. This of course ended with Hitler stalling out at the gates of Moscow during december, essentially being stopped & weakened by general winter - what Monty was talking about.
But Prigozhin did not control 3 Army Groups like Hitler, only a division or so in his 'drang nach norden'.

The 10 most powerful air forces in the world are the United States Air Force, Russian Air Force, People's Liberation Army Air Force, Indian Air Force, Japan Air Self-Defense Force, Israeli Air Force, French Air and Space Force, British Royal Air Force, Republic of Korea Air Force, and Italian Air Force.May 22, 2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Russian_military_aircraft

Air force
United States ............. Russia
Fixed wing aircraft
5414 ..........................2176

Fighters/Multiroles [would include fighter-bombers for airstrikes]
1840 ...........................1319

Bombers
162 ..............................181 [russia has some old bombers]
Where is Prigozhin? (Poll) [View all] orangecrush Jun 2023 OP
Yesterday, somebody, carrying an umbrella, 3Hotdogs Jun 2023 #1
That wasn't very orangecrush Jun 2023 #2
Hangin' with Waldo? Doc Sportello Jun 2023 #3
... orangecrush Jun 2023 #4
Mistake was to withdraw.. Historic NY Jun 2023 #5
Rule 1: Do not march on Muscova jimmy the one Jun 2023 #6
The Mongols did. They burned it to the ground. Kaleva Jun 2023 #7
when it was a town jimmy the one Jun 2023 #9
There's nothing magical about Moscow Kaleva Jun 2023 #11
The Bolsheviks took Moscow after a week of street fighting in 1917 Kaleva Jun 2023 #13
I will rather heed montgomery's advice jimmy the one Jun 2023 #18
Why didn't the Russian air force blow the Wagner forces to kingdom come? Kaleva Jun 2023 #19
see post 6 (no text) jimmy the one Jun 2023 #20
Then why the panic in Moscow? Kaleva Jun 2023 #22
according to who? jimmy the one Jun 2023 #23
Putin looked weak and frightened in his response Kaleva Jun 2023 #32
russia has 2nd most powerful air force jimmy the one Jun 2023 #33
that was advice for foreign invading troops nt Celerity Jun 2023 #24
monty's remarks somewhat applicable jimmy the one Jun 2023 #25
Wagner forces are made up of mostly citizens of Russia Kaleva Jun 2023 #31
Head of Russian AF arrested, possibly Prig supporter jimmy the one Jun 2023 #37
And Russians are often viewed as nothing more than Mongols... Xolodno Jun 2023 #27
Nobody here is talking about NATO marching on Moscow Kaleva Jun 2023 #30
Well that's cherry picking stuff. Xolodno Jun 2023 #34
Instead of cherry picking one part of Montgomery's speech, here a link to the whole speech Kaleva Jun 2023 #36
Probably holed up with his Wagner fighters Kaleva Jun 2023 #8
Cleaning windows at the Federation Tower in Moscow. marked50 Jun 2023 #10
Mar Al Lago. usonian Jun 2023 #12
Taking charge of DeSatan's army in Florida Sancho Jun 2023 #14
Getting shitfaced in Africa. Or an hour outside the Kremlin. Maru Kitteh Jun 2023 #15
Well a lot of people seem to think it was a stunt that Putin was in on jcgoldie Jun 2023 #16
+1000 Celerity Jun 2023 #17
When you fail to kill the king, the king is going to kill you. Mr. Sparkle Jun 2023 #21
+1 orangecrush Jun 2023 #29
Getting ready to fall out of a very high window. 11 Bravo Jun 2023 #26
Elbonia Kennah Jun 2023 #28
A hotel with no windows in Minsk. sarcasmo Jun 2023 #35
On a yacht with an oligarch in the Caribbean. lpbk2713 Jun 2023 #38
Perhaps some answer this poll just for laughs, ironically or sardonically... Silent3 Jun 2023 #39
Disinformation orangecrush Jun 2023 #41
The fact that "Nothing coming out of Russia can be fully believed"... Silent3 Jun 2023 #42
Which piece of him? nt Azathoth Jun 2023 #40
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