General Discussion

There have been some here who have advocated breaking up Russia even further. Finding ways to aid those that challenge Putin both politically and military.

Nor was there ever a danger of a civil war, Prig still professed loyalty to Putin (and still does). The results of Reds vs. the Whites (Tsarist sympathism which the UK, USA and others aided) is well engraved in memory. So is the hard line coup that threw out Gorbachev, but was brought back...only to thrown out again by liberal coup from three guys drunk in a Dacha. The economic chaos that followed is well known over there.

And please, the Bolsheviks overthrew the provisional government barely firing a shot. It was when the Tsarist supporters took up arms that the bloodshed occurred, and I'll state it again, they had western support.

Plus, to head you off at the pass, NATO has militarily been involved both officially and unofficially in areas of conflict such as the break up of Yugoslavia, troops in Kosovo, Libya, etc. The irony, if we didn't get Cheney and Co. we would have probably followed through on verbal promises of integrating Russia into NATO and none of what is going on now would be happening.