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Bear Creek

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60. This Headline needs to right beside that one
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 11:00 PM
Oct 2023
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-children

Human rights groups, including Amnesty International, have accused Israel of imposing apartheid on Palestinians. Biden’s administration needs to hold Netanyahu government accountable for the aggression against Palestinians and expanding settlements in the occupied west bank. Including 3.8 billion in annual aid to Israel.

In March Israeli minister claimed there’s “no such thing” as a Palestinian people. Most repressive government yet. Overhaul of the judiciary. Coalition government has control over who becomes a justice or a judge. This came a day after Israeli and Palestinian delegation met in Egypt. Mediated by Egypt, Jordanian and U.S. officials pledged to take steps to reduce tensions. Bezalel Smotrich delivered a speech in Paris. He said “There is no such thing as a Palestinian nation. There is no Palestinian history. There is no Palestinian language,” He had a map of Israel that showed it including West Bank, Gaza and Jordan.

So as everyone has emotional moral high ground. Remember that there is another side to the story. Almost every war since the Gulf has stories about murdered babies and every other time the story is fake. If it’s not fake then everyone should be just as upset of the fact this year 2023 Israel was on record for the killings of Palestinian children. Whose death toll is higher. The soldiers killing Palestinian children should be punished and hamas killing babies should be punished.

Dealing with an extreme right wing government that is doing what we as democrats are trying to stop from happening here. Controlling the courts and controlling the votes. Making sure that minorities are represented and that hate, discrimination and violence are not normalized.
Stop the 3.8 billion to Israel to use for illegal settlements and maintaining apartheid, we need it here to have universal healthcare and pay for our children’s college.
I stand with President Biden n/t Just_Vote_Dem Oct 2023 #1
I stand with Israel and Biden Calculating Oct 2023 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2023 #62
Hmmmm... GP6971 Oct 2023 #63
Well inthewind21 Oct 2023 #94
Atrocious as vaporizing children by the dozens in the dark with bombs from above. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #3
You really seem focused on minimizing the horrors that Hamas afflicted AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #4
I can't believe some of these posts n/t Just_Vote_Dem Oct 2023 #5
One gets the feeling some would be both siding WW2. BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #12
A of A hasn't changed much maxsolomon Oct 2023 #10
The horrors are maximal on all people not politicians or soldiers or terrorists, is the point being Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Dorian Gray Oct 2023 #40
I self deleted Dorian Gray Oct 2023 #42
some of us really are struggling to channelize our emotions. cab67 Oct 2023 #59
Well Said The Magistrate Oct 2023 #65
I didn't see that North Shore Chicago Oct 2023 #24
You previously asked if it's time for Ukraine to negotiate. Torchlight Oct 2023 #7
I remember that, too. I kept asking which part of the US we should be willing to cede if overrun... Hekate Oct 2023 #14
Texas and Florida! DemocraticPatriot Oct 2023 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #56
Apology NOT accepted. (nt) Paladin Oct 2023 #69
Omg! AUFKM?! Cha Oct 2023 #20
Good faith discussions can become more difficult Torchlight Oct 2023 #22
Least surprising post of the day sarisataka Oct 2023 #8
As far as I know, the Israelis tell people to get out and when. So just stop this campaign, please. Hekate Oct 2023 #9
What would you have the people of Ukraine do? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2023 #15
No "both sides ". Please Stop minimizing Cha Oct 2023 #18
The OP is specifically referring to the targeted killings and beheading of children by Hamas, JohnSJ Oct 2023 #25
Untargeted killings leave folks 100% as dead 100% of the time. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #27
One is a targeted intention to kill children, and it seems you can't comprehend that difference. JohnSJ Oct 2023 #29
Is an untarget dead child any less deader? Like as in how the carpet bombing has vaporized hundreds? Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #92
Hmmm Dorian Gray Oct 2023 #44
International law and common sense make a distinction TomSlick Oct 2023 #50
The horror should be met with more horror!?...People, watching too many horror movies lately! Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #70
So all wise one give us a solution that includes Israel not having to live under the threat of Hamas ripcord Oct 2023 #90
Look up Two State solution,,,it's all there in excruciating acre by acre detail! Bibi won't budge. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #91
If you think inthewind21 Oct 2023 #95
I never have been a fan of horror movies. TomSlick Oct 2023 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author TomSlick Oct 2023 #51
Both, if I can use a quaint term, are evil Dave says Oct 2023 #30
+1 Chautauquas Oct 2023 #86
I stand with Biden, Ukraine, Israel and democracy. Maru Kitteh Oct 2023 #6
Am Yisrael Chai moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #11
Bookmarking, appreciate you posting n/t emulatorloo Oct 2023 #13
Grateful Pres Biden is Cha Oct 2023 #16
Except inthewind21 Oct 2023 #96
Except there are fucking photos now and Pres Biden is Cha Oct 2023 #98
Yes this is the clear and obvious truth. honest.abe Oct 2023 #17
Does this evidence change anything? Fiendish Thingy Oct 2023 #19
If governing folk planning genocide... then you need public to support the genocide...how? Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #23
Just to be perfectly clear, Alexander of Assyria, you are flatly stating that Israel plans genocide Hekate Oct 2023 #26
It Is An Odd Thing To Observe, Ma'am The Magistrate Oct 2023 #61
(sigh) It's been crazy and disheartening around here. Thank you, Sir... Hekate Oct 2023 #66
So, you're saying Dorian Gray Oct 2023 #47
It should for those who are still claiming bothsidesism. honest.abe Oct 2023 #32
What do you mean? Fiendish Thingy Oct 2023 #37
It means this kind of evil is way beyond anything Israel has done. honest.abe Oct 2023 #39
It's faked...now how would you and Israel and America respond to the hate fomented...by fake? Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #80
Doesnt change anything. There is enough verified horrific evil without the baby beheadings. honest.abe Oct 2023 #81
Doesn't change anything...now that the propaganda value has evaporated...true! Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #85
No doubt Israel's response is going to be excessive and extreme and innocents will be killed. honest.abe Oct 2023 #87
Biden, of course, isn't arguing that the issue should be dealt with emotionally. Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #33
Well there is probably more disinformation than accurate information at this point Fiendish Thingy Oct 2023 #38
Yes. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #52
Biden at least from my pov usually tends towards caution so I agree that he had to have had... electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #64
Let us know how to apply "reason and resolve" brooklynite Oct 2023 #48
I'm no expert at logistics Fiendish Thingy Oct 2023 #54
Have you suggested Ukraine apply "reason and resolve" as opposed to defending its territory? brooklynite Oct 2023 #55
I think you misunderstand me Fiendish Thingy Oct 2023 #57
Another reason why Hamas needs to be eliminated. Xolodno Oct 2023 #28
On point. Thank you. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #58
I stand with Israel and President Biden Progressive dog Oct 2023 #31
So did Biden see photos or not? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #35
I listened to what he said, & that is the impression I got. Unlike Trump, Biden does not lie to us. Hekate Oct 2023 #36
The White House is walking it back. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #43
We shall see Hekate Oct 2023 #46
Facts will come out to refute the allegations....and everyone will forget they believed it. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #73
Interesting. How so? No evidence other than cleverly doctored social media posts? Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #72
Thread here: WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #74
Thank you...switching to a True Thread... Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #79
I support President Biden and Israel. revmclaren Oct 2023 #41
I don't even want to contemplate this. . . . BigDemVoter Oct 2023 #45
Check your sources. Kire Oct 2023 #68
I haven't seen it verified anywhere yet. BigDemVoter Oct 2023 #99
Reality NowISeetheLight Oct 2023 #49
Imagine lying about dead babies to foment rabid hate...don't have to imagine...happening in real time! Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #77
This is why parents are being told to turn off Tik Tok, BigmanPigman Oct 2023 #53
This Headline needs to right beside that one Bear Creek Oct 2023 #60
Palestinian babies are also babies loved by their parents??? Who knew this! Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #78
Source of dubious 'beheaded babies' claim is Israeli settler leader who incited riots to 'wipe out' Kire Oct 2023 #67
Who needs reliable sources! There's much hate to be had! That made up story helped a lot! Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #75
Biden did not see proof, The White House walked this back obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #71
Bravely done...but once a big lie is accepted and used to hate..false hate...won't be mentioned again. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #76
I know, it is maddening obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #82
Not mad, factual insistence doesn't allow for madness! Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #84
I well remember when babies were taken out of incubators and murdered. Autumn Oct 2023 #83
Yellow cake, aluminum tubes and uranium shipments...some remember...some choose to forget... Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #88
Well, I'm feeling stupid for believing Joe on this issue. SYFROYH Oct 2023 #89
To be fair, Joe didn't actually say that he saw pictures. Mariana Oct 2023 #97
When I, and a few others, hears the propaganda it was recognized as propaganda. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #100
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