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57. KnR...nt

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Mon Jan 1, 2024, 09:29 AM

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Donald Trump is NOT eligible to run for President. Period. [View all] CousinIT Dec 2023 OP

The 14th amendment and article 12 makes it clear Botany Dec 2023 #1

Agree. He disqualified himself by trying to rip off a free and fair election. onecaliberal Dec 2023 #2

AND he wants to do it again!! vapor2 Dec 2023 #4

Webster's 1828 definition of "insurrection" nuxvomica Dec 2023 #3

Great OP malaise Dec 2023 #5

K&R AKwannabe Dec 2023 #6

K&R Hiawatha Pete Dec 2023 #7

KnR sarchasm Dec 2023 #8

Huge kick and recommend. love_katz Dec 2023 #9

I know SCOTUS is going to dismiss this, because they suck, but it is clear drumpf is disqualified Takket Dec 2023 #10

Not so easy Smackdown2019 Dec 2023 #12

Yes. Both Takket and the OP address this point. gristy Dec 2023 #17

The framers addressed that as I understand it (?) "Officers" does not exclude POTUS or VP... CousinIT Dec 2023 #22

The Slobfather is going doen malaise Dec 2023 #13

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #52

K&R! On continuous repeat! calimary Dec 2023 #11

K&R ArkansasDemocrat1 Dec 2023 #14

The Constitution says participate in an insurrection. Not convicted of cutroot Dec 2023 #15

Exactly. I see nothing about "convicted" in any of it. CousinIT Dec 2023 #23

Jamie Raskin Says Trump Is Disqualified From Ever Holding Office Again LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #16

Agree 1000%, with the op and with Jamie! ShazzieB Dec 2023 #18

I still say "running" & "holding office" are two different things. CaptainTruth Dec 2023 #19

Perhaps but practically it's fraught with problems triron Dec 2023 #20

I know of 3 foreign born candidates, area51 Jan 2024 #60

Qualification for office is the issue dpibel Dec 2023 #50

The right to ballot access is the mirror image of the right to vote. Frasier Balzov Jan 2024 #54

Here's the problem. There's no legal finding of participating in an insurrection. WarGamer Dec 2023 #21

No legal finding or conviction. But the entire nation saw it, heard him incite it. CousinIT Dec 2023 #24

Last I knew Zeitghost Dec 2023 #25

I can't remember the reasons Jack Smith didn't charge insurrection.... CousinIT Dec 2023 #26

i don't see why a criminal trial is needed Stargleamer Dec 2023 #29

Just one lower court judge? WarGamer Dec 2023 #30

It's hard to see what rationale they would use Stargleamer Dec 2023 #33

You're making my point for me... WarGamer Dec 2023 #38

The Colorado Supreme Court did review the lower court's decision Stargleamer Dec 2023 #42

Affirmed by the CO Supremes dpibel Dec 2023 #34

Good points... WarGamer Dec 2023 #40

So, if Trump's insurrection had succeeded, we would have needed his DOJ to prosecute him... W_HAMILTON Jan 2024 #56

As I asked in another post Zeitghost Dec 2023 #46

A Colorado judge did find. . . Stargleamer Dec 2023 #28

Sure, it's a finding by a single state court judge TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #32

No they don't Stargleamer Dec 2023 #35

The problem is it's a state court interpreting the Constitution TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #36

Well I agree that other states might very well decide differently Stargleamer Dec 2023 #47

Hot News For You!! dpibel Dec 2023 #37

SCOTUS will decide. I think it'll be 9-0. WE WILL SEE. WarGamer Dec 2023 #41

Accuracy matters dpibel Dec 2023 #44

Insanity plea? Accepted. But that shoulda been filed in 2016. Kennah Dec 2023 #27

We know he did it, but think one has to be adjudicated an insurrectionist, unless Silent Type Dec 2023 #31

see reply #28 above n/t Stargleamer Dec 2023 #39

When the Colorado judge orders a sentence hearing for insurrection, we have him. Silent Type Dec 2023 #43

What is this "formal sense" of which you speak? dpibel Dec 2023 #48

We've gotten too much in weeds, my fault. Believe, ultimately, trump will Silent Type Dec 2023 #51

K&R Blue Owl Dec 2023 #45

Since he has been proven to be guilty of insurrection in Colorado, can he be charged criminally for it in that state? MichMan Dec 2023 #49

He's not even eligible for a security clearance. moondust Jan 2024 #53

The key phrase here is "excluded from government service" Bucky Jan 2024 #55

KnR...nt MiHale Jan 2024 #57

Absolutely! Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #58

This may upset some here. 3825-87867 Jan 2024 #59

K&R... myohmy2 Jan 2024 #61