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In reply to the discussion: Hamas' brutality is unpardonable [View all]DemocraticPatriot
(4,645 posts)250. I have said that I DO think so....
I just don't feel that TEN women and babies in Gaza
should be killed for every ONE Hamas fighter they manage to eliminate....
I can't document those numbers,
but that is my opinion about what is happening.
All those civilian casualties in Gaza are pretty well 'dismembered'...
Whether one does it up close with metal weapons,
or from a distance with 2,000 pound bombs,
the result seems quite the same to me....
except that Israel is winning the battle when it comes to civilian or "collateral casualties".
You can take your 'true colors' and---- take a goddamn good look at your own morality.
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Yes, where are the stories of IDF raping women and chopping off men's penises?
Beakybird
Jan 2024
#5
WWII was a fairly symmetrical war between major national powers, and the weaponry of the time had little ability to yiel
AZLD4Candidate
Jan 2024
#34
The big problem with your argument is that you suggest that the bombing decided the war.
Chainfire
Jan 2024
#227
There was little attrition or disruption. There was, however, a lot of civilian deaths.
Chainfire
Jan 2024
#256
I would call it a god-damned shame that terrorists would mine an entire city, creating a city under a city
Hekate
Jan 2024
#99
This is true. But Israel isn't trying to kill children. They're trying to kill terrorists. That's a big distinction.
Beakybird
Jan 2024
#13
but but - so how do you kill 10,000 kids & injure 25,000 without trying? You have to be really incompetent or a
womanofthehills
Jan 2024
#19
Hamas uses innocents as human shields. How many innodent Japanese had to be killed for Pearl Harbor?
AZLD4Candidate
Jan 2024
#73
"Brutal response"? Israel shouldn't hand wring while kitchen-made rockets rain down. They get to end the barrage quickly
SoFlaBro
Jan 2024
#171
Your view of history is in error. The US threatened Japan to get out of SE Asia
TeamProg
Jan 2024
#232
If Hamas would surrender, turn over the planners/perpetrators of the 10/7 attacks,
kelly1mm
Jan 2024
#159
Hamas uses the deaths to serve up endless tiktok and twitter memes, reducing the struggle to bully vs victim
elias7
Jan 2024
#235
The question is why you and others here cannot respect our sorrow and mourning and have to
question everything
Jan 2024
#35
"Guess you haven't been over on TicToc or Twitter and viewed the thousands of horrific videos" and there you have it
GuppyGal
Jan 2024
#111
The UN reported 1000s of dead children? Hamas is in charge of what info comes out of Gaza.
oldsoftie
Jan 2024
#86
A baby in Palestine is just as dead from a 2000 pound bomb dropped by Israel....
DemocraticPatriot
Jan 2024
#47
No, the only problem I realized after your response is that because of my poorly worded
Abolishinist
Jan 2024
#172
I do see it now and I agree it is close to. if not crossing the line. I will edit my post. nt
kelly1mm
Jan 2024
#247
That's because instead they blew her into a million pieces with a 2000 pound bomb.
DemocraticPatriot
Jan 2024
#219
Mentioning the consequences of the IDF's indiscriminate bombing is not "bothsiderism"
Bucky
Jan 2024
#120
There's ways to fight Hamas that don't involve leveling apartment buildings and killing thousands of innocent people
Bucky
Jan 2024
#205
Israel did not kill Sinwar! It was some other Hamas dude in Lebanon (Sorry can't remember his name)
LeftInTX
Jan 2024
#233
Yeah. . .Israel asked to be attacked on October 7th. It's their fault and they deserved it
AZLD4Candidate
Jan 2024
#27
I didn't mince words. I said as many as it takes and as few as possible.
TheKentuckian
Jan 2024
#194
Actually, women don't matter to them. Women are not whole beings in the Hamas world view.
GoneOffShore
Jan 2024
#71
Let's talk about rabid animals' physical abuse, sexual humiliation, physical and psychological torture and rape.
TeamProg
Jan 2024
#20
Pardon me? You don't believe the abuses of U.S. soldiers on Iraqis and others?
TeamProg
Jan 2024
#26
No, let's not! Start your own thread, don't hijack others'. Are you capable?
question everything
Jan 2024
#36
I'm only referring to some history of abuses that happen in war. Most humans don't blame all Americans for
TeamProg
Jan 2024
#41
I was being generous, probably LESS than a handful of Hamas members were doing such atrocities, but I can't say.
TeamProg
Jan 2024
#48
You are the one refuting when someone posts an opinion on participation levels.
yagotme
Jan 2024
#203
A: That what the US did at Abu Graib was about as bad. I'm not apologizing for the sickos in
TeamProg
Jan 2024
#231
What are comparing to what end other than white washing fucking Hamas again?
TheKentuckian
Jan 2024
#240
Or what the Turks did to the Armenians. All horrible! All done before! S. Africa has filed paperwork for Netayahu to
TeamProg
Jan 2024
#242
You do realize the Arabs are saying exactly the same thing about the Israelis, right?
Warpy
Jan 2024
#51
And because Hamas doesn't give a shit about Palestinians that gives Israel permission kill innocent Palestinians?
Chainfire
Jan 2024
#148
This is one of the best answers to this difficult question that I have seen.
GoneOffShore
Jan 2024
#72
"but neither party has the 'moral high ground' in this war...." What the actual fuck?
GuppyGal
Jan 2024
#114
Violence is all that works against groups like Hamas. All the blood is on them.
oldsoftie
Jan 2024
#224
You don't think that terrorists who rape and dismember women and children should be eliminated?
AZSkiffyGeek
Jan 2024
#202
Apparently they should do nothing. Remember, as the title of the book says "people love dead jews."
AZLD4Candidate
Jan 2024
#103
They should pick off these underground Hamas scum one by one .....even if it takes decades and let them live their
GuppyGal
Jan 2024
#116
Very interesting. I knew nothing of it, but if it was tried before and failed,
1WorldHope
Jan 2024
#108
Regardless of Hamas' brutality, does it justify killing thousands of innocent Gaza Palastinians?
elocs
Jan 2024
#91
The need to obliterate the possibility of any repeat mandates the elimination of Hamas
TheKentuckian
Jan 2024
#105
So if the IDF gave a figure and Hamas gave a figure, which one would you put more credibility on?
egduj
Jan 2024
#182
I don't rely on either one, I'm inclined to do my own analysis and then make a determination.
AloeVera
Jan 2024
#183
Trust me, people in Gaza don't live in the Land of Make Believe. They live the horror every moment.
AloeVera
Jan 2024
#185
No, it means that hopefully the IDF will mop up the Hamas shitstains and curb all of these Hamas lovers.
SoFlaBro
Jan 2024
#214
Nope. I just call balls and strikes. The Hamas supporters and Hamas lovers are very evident in their behavior.
SoFlaBro
Jan 2024
#226
Hamas's favorite business is dead Palestinian children and business is a-BOOMIN' :nuke:
SoFlaBro
Jan 2024
#237
Hamas is funtioning as a state actor. They are what passes for the legitimate
TheKentuckian
Jan 2024
#236
We agree that the Hamas brutality is unpardonable, what is in dispute is whether Israel's brutality is acceptable.
Chainfire
Jan 2024
#229
My big problem is my inability to ignore the suffering of other human beings. So sue me...
Chainfire
Jan 2024
#244