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11. The Dangerous History Behind Netanyahu's Amalek Rhetoric
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 09:10 AM
Feb 2024
His recent biblical reference has long been used by the Israeli far right to justify killing Palestinians.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/benjamin-netanyahu-amalek-israel-palestine-gaza-saul-samuel-old-testament/

On Saturday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Israelis were united in their fight against Hamas, whom he described as an enemy of incomparable cruelty. “They are committed to completely eliminating this evil from the world,” Netanyahu said in Hebrew. He then added: “You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember.”

There are more than 23,000 verses in the Old Testament. The ones Netanyahu turned to, as Israeli forces launched their ground invasion in Gaza, are among its most violent—and have a long history of being used by Jews on the far right to justify killing Palestinians.



As others quickly pointed out, God commands King Saul in the first Book of Samuel to kill every person in Amalek, a rival nation to ancient Israel. “This is what the Lord Almighty says,” the prophet Samuel tells Saul. “‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

The Amalek reference is one of many comments by Israeli leaders that serve to help justify a devastating response to the brutal Hamas attack on October 7 that took the lives of more than 1,400 people in Israel. A member of the Knesset has called for a second Nakba, in reference to the expulsion of Palestinians that Israel carried out in its 1948 war with Arab neighbors. A military spokesperson said about Israel’s initial airstrikes that “the emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy.”

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'Van Hollen Joins Welch in Calling for Delivery of Urgently Needed Humanitarian Aid to Civilians in Gaza' Donkees Feb 2024 #1
Glad my Senator sees and speaks clearly. elleng Feb 2024 #2
🥲 claudette Feb 2024 #3
there may be some in DU who deny this Tetrachloride Feb 2024 #4
Prove it then Mosby Feb 2024 #24
This comment is beyond Sky Jewels Feb 2024 #69
Wow Alpeduez21 Feb 2024 #77
Hard to believe you're so poorly informed. Mosby Feb 2024 #79
Out of curiosity, do you actually believe any of that? Orrex Feb 2024 #89
. Mosby Feb 2024 #94
Egypt is building the Mother of All Walls to keep out Palestinians. Mosby Feb 2024 #95
this is 99 percent true, regarding Egypt Tetrachloride Feb 2024 #102
We called this out ages ago malaise Feb 2024 #5
Give it a minute, and someone will assure us that Hamas can end this today Orrex Feb 2024 #8
Yep malaise Feb 2024 #9
maybe not everything would end but LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #13
Couple reasons, I'd guess Orrex Feb 2024 #16
You really had to go through all that? ripcord Feb 2024 #25
That's a lot of words to say that you approve of Netanyahu deliberately starving thousands of children Orrex Feb 2024 #29
Especially since Israel is using western weapons, radius777 Feb 2024 #53
our tax dollars aren't going towards genocide or starving children LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #63
Israel is supported and protected by the US radius777 Feb 2024 #66
Hamas is peeing into a wind storm to believe it feasible to erase Israel and kill all Jews. PufPuf23 Feb 2024 #42
Surrendering means you give up and ask for mercy and an end to the conflict. You can negotiate peace terms. LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #44
Those comparisons are meaningless because Hamas is not a state Orrex Feb 2024 #47
+1. Israel is a RW Likud regime, which is conflating radius777 Feb 2024 #52
And it's not like Hamas is a democratically elected gov't radius777 Feb 2024 #67
THEY. TOOK. THE. HOSTAGES. IN. THE. FIRST. PLACE!!!! edisdead Feb 2024 #82
They don't get to set any terms and it is their own credibility that is trash TheKentuckian Feb 19 #143
You are, of course, arguing in favor of Israel killing all Palestinians Orrex Feb 19 #145
If the demand is impossible then what is the purpose if any negotiations efforts at all TheKentuckian Feb 20 #148
Neutanyu will not stop bombing womanofthehills Feb 2024 #62
He's bombing Rafah because that's where Hamas is now. I do wonder LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #64
Hostages were released during the ceasefire Alpeduez21 Feb 2024 #78
I assume you forgot who ended the ceasefire sarisataka Feb 2024 #84
wasn't hostages being released part of the ceasefire deal? LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #85
Absurdly absolutely slobbing Hamas. TheKentuckian Feb 18 #129
This is Middle East!! Butterflylady Feb 2024 #98
So the IDF has no agency? Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #112
They are compelled by Hamas to eliminate Hamas TheKentuckian Feb 18 #131
So it is ok to kill children? Voltaire2 Feb 18 #133
It is unethical to leave tens of thousands to act as a deadly threat TheKentuckian Feb 18 #136
I am so exhausted with that reply obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #17
It's about all they've got Orrex Feb 2024 #22
A horror that must be destroyed but woe unto any actual effort TheKentuckian Feb 2024 #38
Absolutely none of that justifies the forcible starving of thousands of children Orrex Feb 2024 #46
The goalpost have moved from not supporting Hamas TheKentuckian Feb 2024 #48
You need to take that up with whoever moved the goalposts Orrex Feb 2024 #50
See the post I responded to. You were swimming in that stream. TheKentuckian Feb 18 #132
Guilt by association, eh? Perhaps next you'll advocate for collective punishment. Orrex Feb 18 #135
Who am I riding with that is deeply invested in conspiratorial nonsense? TheKentuckian Feb 19 #144
Who is going to distribute aid? Happy Hoosier Feb 2024 #74
Right...one in this thread just posted prove it that kids are starving. brush Feb 2024 #28
Or someone will say that Hamas are "freedom fighters just like Mandela." BannonsLiver Feb 2024 #32
Yes, I've seen that ignorant bullshit Orrex Feb 2024 #45
That was fucking shocking. NT Happy Hoosier Feb 2024 #75
Thank you Senator Van Hollen, the base agrees with you. radius777 Feb 2024 #6
I agree with you except... 2naSalit Feb 2024 #10
Drop the word genocide and it is still mass murder beyond ... sanatanadharma Feb 2024 #7
The Dangerous History Behind Netanyahu's Amalek Rhetoric Celerity Feb 2024 #11
Hamas is attacking Israel and hiding out among civilians LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #14
And yet one of our biggest fights in Congress is to give Israel more money redqueen Feb 2024 #12
Right? Much of that should go to Palestinian aid and reparations. brush Feb 2024 #30
There's aid for Gaza in there too but not $14 billion. redqueen Feb 2024 #37
Let me re-state. Money for IDF arms can be used as bargaining power to make sure... brush Feb 2024 #39
Good. No way Gaza is just going be flattened... brush Feb 2024 #83
Reparations? The US should pay reparations to Gazans? maxsolomon Feb 2024 #41
Israel out of the money from US funding. What, Gaza is flattened... brush Feb 2024 #51
Not sure I understand your comment. maxsolomon Feb 2024 #56
The weapons Israel uses are made in the US and supplied by us. brush Feb 2024 #57
Some of them. Israel has its own Arms industry. maxsolomon Feb 2024 #58
What are you getting at? Gaza is just about flatten by the IDF... brush Feb 2024 #59
You said the US owes Gazans REPARATIONS. maxsolomon Feb 2024 #60
I didn't really say the US owes Gazans reparations. brush Feb 2024 #61
Yes you did mcar Feb 2024 #100
Perhaps you're misunderstanding my position. US weapons are being used on Gaza... brush Feb 2024 #101
I understand that you are denying mcar Feb 2024 #103
Understand pls that my position is some of the funds to Israel should help rebuild Gaza. brush Feb 2024 #104
So be it. brush Feb 2024 #110
"It's not uncommon after such devastating destruction for assistance afterwards to be rendered" EX500rider Feb 2024 #105
It's not uncommon since it happen in Europe and Japan. brush Feb 2024 #106
1,000's of wars in history make 2 examples very uncommon EX500rider Feb 2024 #107
Be clear, pls. What does "money where their month is" mean? brush Feb 2024 #108
How is that unclear, I said which countries can pay for the rebuild EX500rider Feb 2024 #109
Thanks for letting us know where you stand. brush Feb 2024 #111
Consequences? You demand a boon for 10/7 and decades TheKentuckian Feb 19 #146
See post 137. brush Feb 20 #147
See post 80. brush Feb 2024 #81
Not one cent on *reparations* JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #71
OK, call it whatever you want to call it, but the obliteration of Gaza... brush Feb 2024 #80
I don't want to pay for it JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #87
Gave who money? brush Feb 2024 #88
Really? JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #90
You still don't seem to be able to understand Hamas and innocent, Palestinian non-combatants are not the same thing... brush Feb 2024 #91
You still don't seem to understand JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #92
So you're going with leaving Gaza flattened and there will be no consequences? brush Feb 2024 #93
So you're going to blame JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #96
An ugly willful denial of reality Arazi Feb 2024 #97
Thank you! JustAnotherGen Feb 18 #119
I'm a Black man of color who sympathizes with Palestinians, also people of color, who are being blown to bits... brush Feb 2024 #99
My God. You're still not getting that innocent, non-combatant Palestininians... brush Feb 18 #125
"call it whatever you want to call it" SunSeeker Feb 18 #124
And what are the facts? How about 25,000 dead, 90% of the housing flattened... brush Feb 18 #126
The US did not bomb Gaza, nor kill 25,000 Gazans. Facts. nt SunSeeker Feb 18 #127
True, Israel did with US weapons and backing...for 75 years now. brush Feb 18 #128
No, Hamas sadistically killing 1200 Israeli civilians on Oct. 7 caused this war. SunSeeker Feb 18 #130
Your's is always the first fall back response. 25,000 killed in Gaza but you don't brush Feb 18 #137
Corrupt Netanyahu would be gone but for Hamas starting this war. SunSeeker Feb 18 #138
That the Netanyahu admin didn't think it would happen, even though they were warned... brush Feb 18 #139
There is no easy mechanism to force early elections in Israel. SunSeeker Feb 19 #140
Keep speaking out Senator. Please and Thank You. Nanjeanne Feb 2024 #15
Are Hamas war criminals? sarisataka Feb 2024 #18
Terrorists by definition operate outside the rule of law John Shaft Feb 2024 #19
Interesting perspective sarisataka Feb 2024 #20
Look how well waging war (making terrorists accountable) John Shaft Feb 2024 #23
No complaints, just observations sarisataka Feb 2024 #26
yes, that is the maddening conundrum of this situation LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #49
They know what they're doing. It's the same neocon gaslighting radius777 Feb 2024 #54
The terrorists are also the governing body of Gaza TheKentuckian Feb 2024 #35
I'm sure if all these folks had HAMAS living in the next state over they'd be singing a different tune. nt GuppyGal Feb 2024 #73
Without question. They wouldn't even need to be proximate TheKentuckian Feb 2024 #86
Hamas is not a state actor because Gaza isn't a state, but.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2024 #76
Both Hamas and Netanyahu are war criminals IMO. brush Feb 2024 #31
It is hard for some to say that sarisataka Feb 2024 #33
IMO it's become more and more obvious since the many hours-long IDF delay... brush Feb 2024 #34
Knowing a bit how governments and military works sarisataka Feb 2024 #36
Both those delays you mentioned, 9/11 and Oct. 7, were by right wing admins. brush Feb 2024 #40
or they wanted the attacks to happen LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #65
Yep, makes you wonder if it's a let it happen on purpose operation. brush Feb 2024 #68
tried to google this up but too complicated to check bc of using a phone and opening multiple screens - somethin like... electric_blue68 Feb 2024 #115
See my #115 post electric_blue68 Feb 2024 #116
It is troubling, questionable. electric_blue68 Feb 2024 #114
I probably agree w you... electric_blue68 Feb 2024 #113
I didn't know that about the Rabin assassination. Thanks for that info. brush Feb 18 #117
A somber yw electric_blue68 Feb 18 #120
So he's always been to the extreme right. brush Feb 18 #121
As far as I can tell. I don't know his most early official political history. electric_blue68 Feb 18 #122
DURec leftstreet Feb 2024 #21
This is war crime. This is group punishment. This is murder. marble falls Feb 2024 #27
Thank you for speaking out with the truth. As for anyone asking why he voted for the bill Autumn Feb 2024 #43
Kick GoodRaisin Feb 2024 #55
Rafah urgently needs stabilisation centre for children with 'severe malnutrition': UN Donkees Feb 2024 #70
Nice words, bad vote. David__77 Feb 2024 #72
Not interested in giving food to Hamas. Mountainguy Feb 18 #118
Agreed. This is a war crime and Israel has lost the high ground. elocs Feb 18 #123
There are tens of thousands of Hamas operatives TheKentuckian Feb 18 #134
No, it's knowing killing innocent civilians, women & children that's ridiculous and a war crime. elocs Feb 19 #141
Zero if possible but as many as it takes to eliminate the threat. TheKentuckian Feb 19 #142
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