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JustAnotherGen

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71. Not one cent on *reparations*

Thu Feb 15, 2024, 07:18 AM

Feb 2024

That can't be done.

We can't identify the beneficiaries.

Bootstraps.

That was like - 50 years ago.

America has its own reparations to pay.

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Senator Van Hollen: ''Kids in Gaza are now dying from the deliberate withholding of food. That is a war crime.'' [View all] Donkees Feb 2024 OP

'Van Hollen Joins Welch in Calling for Delivery of Urgently Needed Humanitarian Aid to Civilians in Gaza' Donkees Feb 2024 #1

Glad my Senator sees and speaks clearly. elleng Feb 2024 #2

🥲 claudette Feb 2024 #3

there may be some in DU who deny this Tetrachloride Feb 2024 #4

Prove it then Mosby Feb 2024 #24

This comment is beyond Sky Jewels Feb 2024 #69

Wow Alpeduez21 Feb 2024 #77

Hard to believe you're so poorly informed. Mosby Feb 2024 #79

Out of curiosity, do you actually believe any of that? Orrex Feb 2024 #89

. Mosby Feb 2024 #94

Egypt is building the Mother of All Walls to keep out Palestinians. Mosby Feb 2024 #95

this is 99 percent true, regarding Egypt Tetrachloride Feb 2024 #102

We called this out ages ago malaise Feb 2024 #5

Give it a minute, and someone will assure us that Hamas can end this today Orrex Feb 2024 #8

Yep malaise Feb 2024 #9

maybe not everything would end but LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #13

Couple reasons, I'd guess Orrex Feb 2024 #16

You really had to go through all that? ripcord Feb 2024 #25

That's a lot of words to say that you approve of Netanyahu deliberately starving thousands of children Orrex Feb 2024 #29

Especially since Israel is using western weapons, radius777 Feb 2024 #53

our tax dollars aren't going towards genocide or starving children LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #63

Israel is supported and protected by the US radius777 Feb 2024 #66

Hamas is peeing into a wind storm to believe it feasible to erase Israel and kill all Jews. PufPuf23 Feb 2024 #42

Surrendering means you give up and ask for mercy and an end to the conflict. You can negotiate peace terms. LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #44

Those comparisons are meaningless because Hamas is not a state Orrex Feb 2024 #47

+1. Israel is a RW Likud regime, which is conflating radius777 Feb 2024 #52

And it's not like Hamas is a democratically elected gov't radius777 Feb 2024 #67

THEY. TOOK. THE. HOSTAGES. IN. THE. FIRST. PLACE!!!! edisdead Feb 2024 #82

They don't get to set any terms and it is their own credibility that is trash TheKentuckian Feb 19 #143

You are, of course, arguing in favor of Israel killing all Palestinians Orrex Feb 19 #145

If the demand is impossible then what is the purpose if any negotiations efforts at all TheKentuckian Feb 20 #148

Neutanyu will not stop bombing womanofthehills Feb 2024 #62

He's bombing Rafah because that's where Hamas is now. I do wonder LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #64

Hostages were released during the ceasefire Alpeduez21 Feb 2024 #78

I assume you forgot who ended the ceasefire sarisataka Feb 2024 #84

wasn't hostages being released part of the ceasefire deal? LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #85

Absurdly absolutely slobbing Hamas. TheKentuckian Feb 18 #129

This is Middle East!! Butterflylady Feb 2024 #98

So the IDF has no agency? Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #112

They are compelled by Hamas to eliminate Hamas TheKentuckian Feb 18 #131

So it is ok to kill children? Voltaire2 Feb 18 #133

It is unethical to leave tens of thousands to act as a deadly threat TheKentuckian Feb 18 #136

I am so exhausted with that reply obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #17

It's about all they've got Orrex Feb 2024 #22

A horror that must be destroyed but woe unto any actual effort TheKentuckian Feb 2024 #38

Absolutely none of that justifies the forcible starving of thousands of children Orrex Feb 2024 #46

The goalpost have moved from not supporting Hamas TheKentuckian Feb 2024 #48

You need to take that up with whoever moved the goalposts Orrex Feb 2024 #50

See the post I responded to. You were swimming in that stream. TheKentuckian Feb 18 #132

Guilt by association, eh? Perhaps next you'll advocate for collective punishment. Orrex Feb 18 #135

Who am I riding with that is deeply invested in conspiratorial nonsense? TheKentuckian Feb 19 #144

Who is going to distribute aid? Happy Hoosier Feb 2024 #74

Right...one in this thread just posted prove it that kids are starving. brush Feb 2024 #28

Or someone will say that Hamas are "freedom fighters just like Mandela." BannonsLiver Feb 2024 #32

Yes, I've seen that ignorant bullshit Orrex Feb 2024 #45

That was fucking shocking. NT Happy Hoosier Feb 2024 #75

Thank you Senator Van Hollen, the base agrees with you. radius777 Feb 2024 #6

I agree with you except... 2naSalit Feb 2024 #10

Drop the word genocide and it is still mass murder beyond ... sanatanadharma Feb 2024 #7

The Dangerous History Behind Netanyahu's Amalek Rhetoric Celerity Feb 2024 #11

Hamas is attacking Israel and hiding out among civilians LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #14

And yet one of our biggest fights in Congress is to give Israel more money redqueen Feb 2024 #12

Right? Much of that should go to Palestinian aid and reparations. brush Feb 2024 #30

There's aid for Gaza in there too but not $14 billion. redqueen Feb 2024 #37

Let me re-state. Money for IDF arms can be used as bargaining power to make sure... brush Feb 2024 #39

Good. No way Gaza is just going be flattened... brush Feb 2024 #83

Reparations? The US should pay reparations to Gazans? maxsolomon Feb 2024 #41

Israel out of the money from US funding. What, Gaza is flattened... brush Feb 2024 #51

Not sure I understand your comment. maxsolomon Feb 2024 #56

The weapons Israel uses are made in the US and supplied by us. brush Feb 2024 #57

Some of them. Israel has its own Arms industry. maxsolomon Feb 2024 #58

What are you getting at? Gaza is just about flatten by the IDF... brush Feb 2024 #59

You said the US owes Gazans REPARATIONS. maxsolomon Feb 2024 #60

I didn't really say the US owes Gazans reparations. brush Feb 2024 #61

Yes you did mcar Feb 2024 #100

Perhaps you're misunderstanding my position. US weapons are being used on Gaza... brush Feb 2024 #101

I understand that you are denying mcar Feb 2024 #103

Understand pls that my position is some of the funds to Israel should help rebuild Gaza. brush Feb 2024 #104

So be it. brush Feb 2024 #110

"It's not uncommon after such devastating destruction for assistance afterwards to be rendered" EX500rider Feb 2024 #105

It's not uncommon since it happen in Europe and Japan. brush Feb 2024 #106

1,000's of wars in history make 2 examples very uncommon EX500rider Feb 2024 #107

Be clear, pls. What does "money where their month is" mean? brush Feb 2024 #108

How is that unclear, I said which countries can pay for the rebuild EX500rider Feb 2024 #109

Thanks for letting us know where you stand. brush Feb 2024 #111

Consequences? You demand a boon for 10/7 and decades TheKentuckian Feb 19 #146

See post 137. brush Feb 20 #147

See post 80. brush Feb 2024 #81

Not one cent on *reparations* JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #71

OK, call it whatever you want to call it, but the obliteration of Gaza... brush Feb 2024 #80

I don't want to pay for it JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #87

Gave who money? brush Feb 2024 #88

Really? JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #90

You still don't seem to be able to understand Hamas and innocent, Palestinian non-combatants are not the same thing... brush Feb 2024 #91

You still don't seem to understand JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #92

So you're going with leaving Gaza flattened and there will be no consequences? brush Feb 2024 #93

So you're going to blame JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #96

An ugly willful denial of reality Arazi Feb 2024 #97

Thank you! JustAnotherGen Feb 18 #119

I'm a Black man of color who sympathizes with Palestinians, also people of color, who are being blown to bits... brush Feb 2024 #99

My God. You're still not getting that innocent, non-combatant Palestininians... brush Feb 18 #125

"call it whatever you want to call it" SunSeeker Feb 18 #124

And what are the facts? How about 25,000 dead, 90% of the housing flattened... brush Feb 18 #126

The US did not bomb Gaza, nor kill 25,000 Gazans. Facts. nt SunSeeker Feb 18 #127

True, Israel did with US weapons and backing...for 75 years now. brush Feb 18 #128

No, Hamas sadistically killing 1200 Israeli civilians on Oct. 7 caused this war. SunSeeker Feb 18 #130

Your's is always the first fall back response. 25,000 killed in Gaza but you don't brush Feb 18 #137

Corrupt Netanyahu would be gone but for Hamas starting this war. SunSeeker Feb 18 #138

That the Netanyahu admin didn't think it would happen, even though they were warned... brush Feb 18 #139

There is no easy mechanism to force early elections in Israel. SunSeeker Feb 19 #140

Keep speaking out Senator. Please and Thank You. Nanjeanne Feb 2024 #15

Are Hamas war criminals? sarisataka Feb 2024 #18

Terrorists by definition operate outside the rule of law John Shaft Feb 2024 #19

Interesting perspective sarisataka Feb 2024 #20

Look how well waging war (making terrorists accountable) John Shaft Feb 2024 #23

No complaints, just observations sarisataka Feb 2024 #26

yes, that is the maddening conundrum of this situation LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #49

They know what they're doing. It's the same neocon gaslighting radius777 Feb 2024 #54

The terrorists are also the governing body of Gaza TheKentuckian Feb 2024 #35

I'm sure if all these folks had HAMAS living in the next state over they'd be singing a different tune. nt GuppyGal Feb 2024 #73

Without question. They wouldn't even need to be proximate TheKentuckian Feb 2024 #86

Hamas is not a state actor because Gaza isn't a state, but.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2024 #76

Both Hamas and Netanyahu are war criminals IMO. brush Feb 2024 #31

It is hard for some to say that sarisataka Feb 2024 #33

IMO it's become more and more obvious since the many hours-long IDF delay... brush Feb 2024 #34

Knowing a bit how governments and military works sarisataka Feb 2024 #36

Both those delays you mentioned, 9/11 and Oct. 7, were by right wing admins. brush Feb 2024 #40

or they wanted the attacks to happen LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #65

Yep, makes you wonder if it's a let it happen on purpose operation. brush Feb 2024 #68

tried to google this up but too complicated to check bc of using a phone and opening multiple screens - somethin like... electric_blue68 Feb 2024 #115

See my #115 post electric_blue68 Feb 2024 #116

It is troubling, questionable. electric_blue68 Feb 2024 #114

I probably agree w you... electric_blue68 Feb 2024 #113

I didn't know that about the Rabin assassination. Thanks for that info. brush Feb 18 #117

A somber yw electric_blue68 Feb 18 #120

So he's always been to the extreme right. brush Feb 18 #121

As far as I can tell. I don't know his most early official political history. electric_blue68 Feb 18 #122

DURec leftstreet Feb 2024 #21

This is war crime. This is group punishment. This is murder. marble falls Feb 2024 #27

Thank you for speaking out with the truth. As for anyone asking why he voted for the bill Autumn Feb 2024 #43

Kick GoodRaisin Feb 2024 #55

Rafah urgently needs stabilisation centre for children with 'severe malnutrition': UN Donkees Feb 2024 #70

Nice words, bad vote. David__77 Feb 2024 #72

Not interested in giving food to Hamas. Mountainguy Feb 18 #118

Agreed. This is a war crime and Israel has lost the high ground. elocs Feb 18 #123

There are tens of thousands of Hamas operatives TheKentuckian Feb 18 #134

No, it's knowing killing innocent civilians, women & children that's ridiculous and a war crime. elocs Feb 19 #141

Zero if possible but as many as it takes to eliminate the threat. TheKentuckian Feb 19 #142