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nilram

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18. Yes--We did that with Greece; they then gave arms to Ukraine
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 03:52 PM
Feb 19

Go Joe!

Joe Biden Is Arming Greece So Greece Can Arm Ukraine—And Pro-Russia Republicans Can’t Stop Him
January 30, 2024
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/30/joe-biden-is-arming-greece-so-greece-can-arm-ukraine-and-pro-russia-republicans-cant-stop-him/

It is, in essence, an American version of Germany’s circular weapons trade—the so-called Ringtausch. The United States is gifting older surplus weapons to Greece with the understanding that Greece donates to Ukraine some of its own surplus weapons.

Greek media broke the news last week. According to the newspaper Kathimerini and other media, the Biden administration offered the Greek government three 87-foot Protector-class patrol boats, two Lockheed Martin C-130H airlifters, 10 Allison T56 turboprop engines for Lockheed P-3 patrol planes plus 60 M-2 Bradley fighting vehicles and a consignment of transport trucks.

All this hardware is U.S. military surplus—and is available to Greece, free of charge, under a U.S. legal authority called “excess defense articles.” Federal law allows an American president to declare military systems surplus to need, assign them a value—potentially zero dollars—and give them away on the condition that the recipient transport them.

The law caps annual EDA transfers at $500 million. The same law doesn’t dictate the value the president assigns to surplus weapons. In a letter to Greek prime minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken described the ships, planes, engines and vehicles as “free concessions.”


We need to do more of this...
Absolutely, Bravo! SalamanderSleeps Feb 19 #1
All in! AlienAsparagus Feb 19 #2
Can we give arms to NATO nations tavernier Feb 19 #3
It'd be crazy if we weren't looking into this, or probably already doing it. erronis Feb 19 #7
And since we gave 11 billion to Russia under that deal tavernier Feb 19 #8
We'd be sending them MORE. Just DELIVERED in a different manner! oldsoftie Feb 19 #9
Until we change control of the House, that ain't happening. paleotn Feb 19 #12
We don't have to give arms to NATO nations. They buy them. paleotn Feb 19 #11
Understood. Ukraine isn't a NATO nation yet. tavernier Feb 19 #14
I agree. The problem is buy vs. give. paleotn Feb 19 #15
Yes--We did that with Greece; they then gave arms to Ukraine nilram Feb 19 #18
Especially since it would benefit stollen Feb 20 #36
Good on her for stepping up and for asking other countries to do the same redqueen Feb 19 #4
absolutely great, danes! et tu Feb 19 #5
Probably not a lot of guns but its the ammo that is really needed. Glad EU gets the need! dutch777 Feb 19 #6
How, then, will they repel attacks fom marauding Vikings? jaxexpat Feb 19 #10
Marauding Vikings soldierant Feb 19 #22
And the Danelaw, which consisted of most of central Britain, Ocelot II Feb 19 #26
Pretty much. soldierant Feb 19 #30
William was a Norman, correct? stollen Feb 20 #37
William was the descendant of a Viking, Rollo, Ocelot II Feb 20 #39
Outstanding! The Danish would shame our Republican magats if they were capable of shame. n/t elocs Feb 19 #13
Thank you, Denmark wendyb-NC Feb 19 #16
I'm so impressed with your gift and generosity, Denmark! liberalla Feb 19 #17
That's correct, because the consequences have far reaching effects to all of Europe & the world onetexan Feb 19 #20
Give Ukraine those shells and guns now or you'll have to use them later ArkansasDemocrat1 Feb 19 #21
If Denmark gets attacked, stollen Feb 19 #25
Denmark is a founding member of NATO onetexan Feb 19 #27
The Czech Republic is giving literally hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammo and missiles to Ukraine PortTack Feb 19 #19
Europe is bracing for the possibility of a second Trump Presidency Kennah Feb 19 #23
Denmark has 19 CAESAR 8x8, which are extremely well regarded. Can easily shoot and scoot. Kennah Feb 19 #24
Video here: True Dough Feb 20 #35
I love Denmark !!!!!!! Trueblue1968 Feb 19 #28
I want all of the fucking artillery provided to smash the fuck out of those Putin fuckstains. SoFlaBro Feb 19 #29
Good for Denmark! 👍👏💕nt Raine Feb 19 #31
How many 155mm shells do they have? NickB79 Feb 19 #32
THANK YOU DENMARK!!! LymphocyteLover Feb 19 #33
Thank you Denmark orangecrush Feb 19 #34
K&R Scurrilous Feb 20 #38
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