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Sympthsical

(9,153 posts)
49. Yes and no. We got "Got mine!" better
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 02:15 PM
Mar 5

Let me explain. If you took our general situation, wages vs. expenses, we'd be a fair bit worse. 5% increase in income since 2019, and expenses have just been spiraling in places. Not just groceries. Things like insurance. Our home owner's insurance just went "WTF?!" in recent years. Auto. Health, etc. Utilities are flyin upwards. Gotta love that PG&E. Lot of things sapped at our base income.

However! How-ev-er. We're not struggling. We're towards the higher end of middle class? I don't know where we land, because the numbers are a lot different in the Bay Area of California. But we've been fairly comfortable DINKS.

On paper, there are some things. Our home value increased 30% since 2019. Great for us! Not for anyone else, but great for us! Because we actually are home owners. And more or less fuck you if you didn't buy pre-pandemic. We're also insulated from the PG&E shitshow. All our friends are complaining - can't wait until the summer to watch this one - but we're fine. Why? Because we threw $20,000 at solar. Because we had $20,000 to throw at solar. We're about to be a lot better, because I went back to school and will make significantly more once I'm done. That's not an economy thing, though. That's a personal initiative thing. I'm bustin my ass to do this.

Because we already had money, we're insulated from a lot of the problems. But if it was a straight up income vs. costs, no we'd not be doing better. The increase in various costs would be awful if our income was the sole metric.

And I think DU is showing this a bit. Much older demographic. I've been calling it "Got mine!" better.

It's a K-shape. If you're good, there are things like stocks and property that keep you good. If you're paycheck to paycheck, cost increases in various areas can eat you away.

My friends who were already good are still good. My friends who were dog paddling to make it are dog paddling just a little bit harder these days.

No Polybius Mar 5 #1
Wow Johnny2X2X Mar 5 #8
Individual Polybius Mar 5 #10
Sorry Johnny2X2X Mar 5 #13
Can you consider putting future savings in an S&P index fund? Nt spooky3 Mar 5 #32
Ouch! Ms. Toad Mar 5 #42
A lot of retirement stock are tied to the bond market Johonny Mar 5 #11
Mie is over 30%. sinkingfeeling Mar 5 #20
I am sorry to hear that. ProudMNDemocrat Mar 5 #41
Our investments lost 10% in 2022, but regained everything in 2023. brooklynite Mar 5 #46
Your stocks are down that much? yardwork Mar 5 #53
Stocks down 75%? You need a new broker. spanone Mar 5 #55
Despite inflation, and all the horrors, I personally am doing much better niyad Mar 5 #2
Much better. Happy Hoosier Mar 5 #3
I voted yes Johnny2X2X Mar 5 #4
laid off 4 years ago, now making 2/3 my former $ RainCaster Mar 5 #5
I hope your $ improve. Your answer had to be complicated karynnj Mar 5 #9
Yes redqueen Mar 5 #6
Much better in most respects PatSeg Mar 5 #7
Money in the bank Johnny2X2X Mar 5 #17
Those statistics are interesting PatSeg Mar 5 #24
Great post Johnny2X2X Mar 5 #27
That brings back so memories PatSeg Mar 5 #38
Student loans Johnny2X2X Mar 5 #12
Much better Trashman272 Mar 5 #14
About the same ITAL Mar 5 #15
Everyone I know is way better off now than before 2020. Higher income, better jobs. Heck my youngest is graduating MenloParque Mar 5 #16
Same Johnny2X2X Mar 5 #18
Yes and no. All Mixed Up Mar 5 #19
Hope you can find a good new one. Nt spooky3 Mar 5 #33
My retirement/401k is the highest it's ever been - right now; my salary LeftinOH Mar 5 #21
Yes, much better! beaglelover Mar 5 #22
I am genuinely shocked at these results Johnny2X2X Mar 5 #23
Or limbicnuminousity Mar 5 #28
Was trying to only get the pulse of DU Johnny2X2X Mar 5 #31
Fair enough limbicnuminousity Mar 5 #35
More good data in the internals regarding low income workers Johnny2X2X Mar 5 #39
Doing better because of investments but lynintenn Mar 5 #25
I've been treading water for years pfitz59 Mar 5 #26
i have made more money, , saved more money and spent more on luxury expenses than the previous 4 MistakenLamb Mar 5 #29
I have gained back my losses from Trump's Emile Mar 5 #30
I think the media buys this myth of the pre Covid Trump economy Johnny2X2X Mar 5 #37
Financially yes; health no, but it's not terrible. Nt spooky3 Mar 5 #34
Anecdotally, I have been trying to hire people to remodel my home, with no luck. Midnight Writer Mar 5 #36
And plumbers. It seems they've gone extinct. Vinca Mar 5 #40
Yes. ProudMNDemocrat Mar 5 #43
No TexasBushwhacker Mar 5 #44
I contemplated that. Ms. Toad Mar 5 #48
I really need to work at least another year TexasBushwhacker Mar 5 #50
I don't know what your aptitudes are - Ms. Toad Mar 5 #54
Way the hell better... GreenWave Mar 5 #45
Own personal finances and general situation are two different things. Ms. Toad Mar 5 #47
Yes and no. We got "Got mine!" better Sympthsical Mar 5 #49
Not sure on the K shaped Johnny2X2X Mar 5 #56
I'm in a much worse spot happybird Mar 5 #51
I'm older and fatter. Oh! You meant am I better off under Biden? yardwork Mar 5 #52
Financially much, much worse Tree-Hugger Mar 5 #57
Very sorry for your situation Johnny2X2X Mar 5 #59
Chugging along GenThePerservering Mar 5 #58
I turned 80 last Sunday. Ping Tung Mar 5 #60
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