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In reply to the discussion: I firmly believe the use of the word "genocide" [View all]Sympthsical
(9,167 posts)Because people know - even if it's only in the back of their minds - that it's very difficult to apply their anti-Western Marxism to a liberal democracy unless they can shoehorn the Israel/Palestine conflict into a context of oppressor and oppressed.
It has to have that framing, or else their ideology collapses. Then they're simply doing the work of a radical fundamentalist religious sect that is extremely illiberal at its core and holds none of the values that these people keep claiming they are for - democracy and equality for women, LGBTers, and ethnic minorities.
When one carries water for Hamas by spreading their propaganda far and wide, it serves anti-Western goals at the risk of unmasking their liberal claims as empty and meaningless. It's very difficult to pull off the performative if people can see you exposed on the stage.
So they can't really say what they really think, because they know they'll lose the audience. Well, most of them do. Some of them don't care and go full anti-Israel, anti-Jew, resistance, "Just like Mandela!" radical on the situation. But the "reasonables" know they have to - at best - be very, very quiet about it all lest the rust and rot of their ideology meet open air.
Because, let's be honest. If people were really "Pro-Palestine" they would have had a lot more to say as Hamas degraded Gaza for the past twenty years and stole the aid that was meant for the people to enact their genocidal goals. They would have condemned the treatment of women and minorities and called out Hamas' abuse of their own citizens. They would have said something - anything at all - at the efforts to propagandize children from birth into sharing these radical, genocidal goals.
They said very close to next to nothing. Because they did not care. And they still do not care. They keep very quiet about stories of abuse, theft of aid, the rapes and the tortures. Because it works against the narrative. They can give a very mealy-mouthed perfunctory "Hamas is bad" if pressed, but they would really rather prefer it if no one said anything at all. Silence in the name of violent oppression is the only way one can gaslight people to think violent religious radicals are the true oppressed.
It's the only way it works. With silence, cooperation, and assistance through propaganda.
Part of this is, Israel needs to be brought down morally. So they have to scratch at it. They know - they fucking know - Israel faces an existential threat by radical Islam. If we're being honest, it's clear a lot of these anti-Westerners aren't exactly against that. It's not a bug - it's the whole fucking feature.
So they pick, pick, pick at it. To get that equivalence going. Stories that are blatantly counter-factual and against Israel that go uncorrected. Picking and choosing from the daily google which things, major and minor, suit an anti-Israel narrative. Then they spread them far and wide.
The genocide rhetoric is the mantle piece, the golden statue, the pillar around which the moral confluence revolves. If they can make Israel the equivalent of genocidal medieval fuckwads, then they can get reasonable people to think, "Maybe we should just bop on out of this and leave them to it." Because they know, if the West retreats, the genocidal religious radicals will get to work in earnest.
Western retreat is the goal. Their language betrays them. Anti-colonialism, apartheid, genocide. They need to frame it this way. The ideology demands it.
Racism, anti-semitism, illiberalism. It gets wrapped up in nobility. It's resistance. We're anti-oppression!
As they work to support some of the most oppressive forces in the modern world. George Orwell truly would be having the best of times right now. People forget. There were a non-zero number of people in the West who thought Stalin and Mao were on the right path and never acknowledged what they were supporting until the reality became too obvious to deny or explain away.
They didn't go anywhere. They're just focused on other things now. Mainly Israel, it seems.