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In reply to the discussion: I firmly believe the use of the word "genocide" [View all]Celerity
(43,714 posts)139. so many RW Israelis, including many in Likud absolutely look at it as a war on all of the Gazans and/or all Palestinians
from the early days, here are some examples:
Israeli Heritage Minister: "Blow up & flatten everything [in Gaza] Simply a delight for the eyes.....
We need to talk about the day after.. We give out land plots to all those [soldiers] who have fought against Gaza over the years & to [settlers]"
Source: Israel's Heritage Minister Amichai Eliyahu's FB page, openly calling for wiping out Gaza & giving it to soldiers & settlers
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related:
Israeli MP Galit Distal Atbaryan Says It Clearly for World to Hear: 'Erase All of Gaza From the Face of the Earth'
https://www.commondreams.org/news/israel-gaza-genocide
Galit Distel Atbaryan, a member of the Israeli Knesset for the ruling Likud Party, is seen holding an Israeli flag.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/israel-gaza-genocide
An Israeli lawmaker from the ruling right-wing Likud Party on Wednesday offered fresh evidence that the Israeli government's aim in its bombardment of Gaza is a genocidal effort to kill or forcibly remove the more than 2 million Palestinians living there, declaring, "Gaza should be erased." With the support of the United States and other Western countries, Israel has claimed since October 7when Hamas launched a surprise attack on southern Israel, killing as many as 1,400 people and taking more than 200 hostagethat its bombardment of Gaza is necessary to destroy the armed group, even though the IDF has repeatedly struck civilian targets and killed nearly 9,000 Palestinians so far, including over 3,500 children.
After screening a 45-minute montage of footage taken by Hamas fighters' body cameras during the October 7 attack, Knesset member and former Public Diplomacy Minister Galit Distal Atbaryan posted on Facebook that Israeli officials must invest all their energy "in one thing: erasing all of Gaza from the face of the Earth.""That the brave monsters will fly to the southern fence and enter Egyptian territory," Atbaryan continued, an apparent reference to Israel's reported plan to permanently expel Palestinians who survive the assault to Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, imposing a "second Nakba" on the population. "Or let them die... Gaza needs to be wiped out." "Revengeful and vicious IDF is required here," she continued. "Anything less than that is immoral."
Atbaryan's post signified "genocidal intent, clearly expressed," said author and former Irish Times environmental editor Frank McDonald.
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Writer and organizer Fiona Edwards noted that despite public comments like Atbaryan's, the U.S. and other Western governments continue to insist that "Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East."
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Atbaryan is only the latest Israeli official to proudly announce to the world the violence the government plans to perpetrate in Gaza, both following the October 7 attack and long before the latest escalation in fighting in the region. Defense Minister Yoav Gallant called residents of Gaza, about half of whom are children, "human animals" as he ordered a "complete siege" on the enclave including a total blockade of food, fuel, and electricity. Former military officer Eliyahu Yossian said the IDF must enter Gaza "with the aim of revenge, zero morality, maximum corpses," and told Channel 14 in Israel on Monday that "there is no population in Gaza, there are 2.5 million terrorists."
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Deliberately pushing millions of Palestinians into one area then carpet bombing that area is genocide.
lark
Mar 28
#1
Hamas, the elected government of Gaza, launched an attack on the territory of Israel....
Happy Hoosier
Mar 28
#70
They were 100% war crimes, and what is happening in Gaza is ethnic cleansing slipping into genocide
obamanut2012
Mar 28
#75
"From the River to the Sea" is a paraphrase of the 1977 Likud manifesto
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 28
#8
No, it is simply not answering the legimate questions I asked. There is nothing 'to the point' about non-responsiveness.
Celerity
Mar 28
#21
It isn't '2 different ways' in terms of what I am discussing, as some on both sides have and are using it to the extent
Celerity
Mar 28
#26
No, no I am not, and you are ignoring Likud, (who ARE currently in power) both in their sloganeering and their actions.
Celerity
Mar 28
#127
so many RW Israelis, including many in Likud absolutely look at it as a war on all of the Gazans and/or all Palestinians
Celerity
Mar 28
#139
No it is not lying, as that was the gist (notice it was not a quote) of what he was saying.
Celerity
Mar 28
#150
Some would rather quibble over the meaning of words than deal with the actual truth.
Earth-shine
Mar 28
#14
I think you ignore a lot of important aspects, none of which occurred with your two US examples. BUT
hlthe2b
Mar 28
#25
Barricading food aid and allowing starvation is not something the US did. Netanyahu, has.
hlthe2b
Mar 28
#33
We did not barricade/blockade them into starving. You can disagree or debate the atomic bomb
hlthe2b
Mar 28
#38
The Allies during World War One did in fact impose a blockade on the Central Powers
thucythucy
Mar 28
#66
"We did not barricade/blockade them into starving." lol, it was literally called "Operation Starvation"
EX500rider
Mar 28
#129
I could not agree with you more. It's also 100 percent antisemitism as a dog whistle
jimfields33
Mar 28
#29
Do you think the US firebombing of Tokyo where over 80k were killed and over 200k made homeless
ripcord
Mar 28
#65
That is for murdering, raping, genocidal, theocratic extremist Arabs and Persian terrorists
TheKentuckian
Mar 28
#43
If the Israeli's proceed with a military attack on the city of Rafah, I might want to reconsider my position.
patphil
Mar 28
#142
RE: "But I see no evidence that they wish to kill the population of Gaza"
IrishAfricanAmerican
Mar 28
#55
If some other country was doing it to some other walled off minority inside their borders...
Iggo
Mar 28
#58
Our gov't has condemned China and the Saudis for human rights violations and more, many times in the past.
Earth-shine
Mar 28
#165
The WWII Jewish Holocaust is not the only terrible event that is a genocide. There were many before then and many after
obamanut2012
Mar 28
#76
The U.S. has to stop sending money to Israel used to purchase munitions for its massive killing of innocent people,
Squaredeal
Mar 28
#86
Do you know Netanyahu has used the term "river to sea" also as to his aim in the region.
brush
Mar 28
#102
Like "apartheid", "anti-Semitism" and so many others in order to fit their "needs".
Behind the Aegis
Mar 28
#118
Section 101 (starting at p. 59) of South Africa ICJ case extensively addresses intent (linked).
David__77
Mar 28
#144