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GoreWon2000

(107 posts)
40. You don't understand Florida's intent of the voter standard
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 07:29 PM
Mar 29

Having spent 15 years living in one of the disputed counties and volunteering on election campaigns, everything from local state legislative campaigns all the way to Presidential campaigns when I lived in Florida, I know Florida election law quite well because I personally worked under it. Florida's intent of the voter standard in 2000 required that all votes where the intent of the voter is clear be counted. Voters can mark their ballots in ways that the counting machines are unable to read them but they make clear the candidate they voted for. Florida had a remedy for counting such ballots in order to make sure that every vote is counted as Florida law clearly required. Votes that the counting machines couldn't read were allowed to be hand duplicated and then they were counted. The county election supervisors were required by law to keep detailed records of every vote that was counted in this manner. This is how 10,000 absentee ballots that the counting machines couldn't read that were located in the most heavily republican voting counties in Florida were in fact hand duplicated and counted. They favored W by more than 2 to 1 and they're in the Jeb Bush/Katherine Harris fraudulent vote total. These absentee ballots were hand duplicated and counted at the very same time W was claiming publicly that he opposed hand counting ballots. W would not have been able to steal the election without these hand counted ballots. The Bush campaign made no effort to block the hand duplication and counting of these ballots because they so heavily favored W. They just blocked the counting of the ballots that the counting machines couldn't read that were in the largest and most heavily democratic voting counties in Florida because they knew that counting all of the votes meant victory for Al Gore. The truth is, the ability to hand duplicate and count ballots that the counting machines couldn't read applied to all ballots that the counting machines couldn't read and not a select few absentee ballots in Florida's most heavily republican voting counties .The Bush election stealers refused to follow Florida election law and count all of the votes because they knew W would lose. When Florida's intent of the voter standard is followed and all of the uncounted Florida ballots where the intent of the voter is clear are counted, W loses every time.
It's also important to remember that the election laws that were in place in Florida in 2000 had been on the books for a century. They were passed in the aftermath of the 1876 election that the GOP had stolen under very similar circumstances. In 1876, the GOP controlled canvassing board in Florida threw out the votes of 1,800 democrats simply because they could because there was no requirement to count every vote. This changed the outcome of that election and awarded Florida to the GOP. This is very similar to what happened in 2000. It had wrongly been believed that the Florida requirement that all votes where the intent of the voter is clear be counted would be enough to make sure that all of the votes were in fact counted in 2000 and it wasn't because the corrupt Florida GOP Governor Jeb, W's brother and corrupt Florida Secretary of State and Bush/Florida campaign co-chair Katherine Harris refused to count all of the votes, Florida election law be damned and got 5 corrupt GOP SCOTUS judges to rubberstamp their anti-democracy behavior.

Imagine a world where Gore had not picked him? superpatriotman Mar 27 #1
Some one who wasn't embarressed edhopper Mar 27 #9
I remember at the time, I wished he'd chosen Daniel Patrick Moynihan FakeNoose Mar 27 #13
It wasn't as though we didn't know who Lieberman was when he won his Senate seat in 1988. Omnipresent Mar 28 #28
I will never believe Gore lost. sinkingfeeling Mar 27 #2
Three Supreme Court Justices today worked to stop the 2000 FL recount Attilatheblond Mar 27 #4
When the votes were finaly gone through and counted after 9/11 Al Gore had won Florida and the presidency. Autumn Mar 27 #5
No the media count favored Bush under most scenarios. former9thward Mar 27 #14
Does not matter. When the ballots were finally gone through and were counted in 2001 Gore had won. Autumn Mar 27 #18
You are cherry picking. former9thward Mar 27 #20
Whatever. Read the article. Autumn Mar 28 #25
You don't understand Florida's intent of the voter standard GoreWon2000 Mar 29 #40
The pro Bush media lied about the vote count to "invent a Bush win"! GoreWon2000 Mar 28 #35
If the VP's constitutional role of counting and rejecting electoral votes.. Omnipresent Mar 28 #27
With a red hot poker stick? FHRRK Mar 27 #3
Lieberman-No Labels, was a corrupt little weasel. 58Sunliner Mar 27 #6
It was all about Joe wanting to look presidential, for his own run to the White House. dem4decades Mar 27 #7
Al Gore should have picked Howard Dean for VP MacKasey Mar 27 #8
Yes, and the vote for Nader was more than House of Roberts Mar 27 #10
I often think how different the world would be if George W Bush had not become the President. walkingman Mar 27 #11
Truly - how "F*CKED" up is that! MyOwnPeace Mar 27 #17
Saturday Night Live has your answer ... Earth-shine Mar 28 #33
Possibly even no 9/11 JHB Mar 28 #38
Post removed Post removed Mar 27 #12
Which Jew should he have picked? JoseBalow Mar 27 #16
Abysmal performance by Leiberman Harmony Starshine Mar 27 #15
I remember that in the debate Lieberman Frances Mar 27 #21
I don't remember that specifically Harmony Starshine Mar 27 #23
Yes. H2O Man Mar 27 #24
Lieberman knifed the Democrats Playingmantis Mar 27 #19
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 27 #22
All of the Florida votes in heavily democratic voting counties were never counted! GoreWon2000 Mar 28 #37
I think Leiberman followed the power and money in his career bucolic_frolic Mar 28 #26
Poor manners to piss on the grave of deceased Ferryboat Mar 28 #29
Fuck that guy edhopper Mar 28 #31
I perfer to wait a period of time before piling on. Ferryboat Mar 28 #34
Gore wanted to distance himself from Bill Clinton because of the BJ doc03 Mar 28 #30
Yes edhopper Mar 28 #32
Gore got the most votes in 2000. GoreWon2000 Mar 28 #36
Yes edhopper Mar 28 #39
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