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cayugafalls

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44. My point was it is kind of hard to be orderly when you are dying.

Sat Mar 30, 2024, 11:18 AM

Mar 30

By characterizing it as a riot you denigrated those who were starving and trying to save their own families.

It was not a riot. It was severely starving people trying to get food.

All you have to is spend some energy really thinking about what led to the people trying desperately to get that food.

Peace and love.

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IDF admits to killing two Gazans, burying them with a bulldozer [View all] ForgoTheConsequence Mar 30 OP

We're told Gazans are just supposed to surrender and it will be over, but this is what happens when they do surrender? ck4829 Mar 30 #1

Israel wants the land...Jared said that there could be nice beach resorts in Gaza. Demsrule86 Mar 30 #30

what Jared says is irrelevant NoRethugFriends Apr 2 #151

Two injured hostages tried to surrender/be rescued obamanut2012 Mar 30 #56

When the bulldozers start burying bodies things have taken an even more evil turn. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 30 #2

The US military did the same in Desert Storm RSherman Mar 30 #3

The difference was they weren't trying to surrender. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 30 #5

And they were civilians. Voltaire2 Mar 30 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #12

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And how do you tell the civilian males from Hamas? EX500rider Mar 30 #76

Or the Hamas babies, old people, women, and children. Voltaire2 Mar 30 #83

Where is anyone "removing" anybody from Gaza? Did you imagine that or what? EX500rider Mar 30 #84

So the kids ARE Hamas! AZSkiffyGeek Mar 30 #112

The problem is that with 20 years of terrorist tactics, you have to consider the Trojan Horse ploy elias7 Mar 30 #8

Post removed Post removed Mar 30 #9

Elias7 said no such thing. nt MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #14

The implication was that everyone is a possible terrorist. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 30 #16

The implication is your opinion, not a statement of fact. nt. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #17

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Amazing. What people say to justify the horror of this war crime. erodriguez Mar 30 #18

It is amazing... David__77 Mar 30 #49

War Crimes are not protected. History will not be kind. nt TeamProg Mar 30 #66

They are not the same thing. Renew Deal Mar 30 #6

Yeah, I know from first hand experience, I was there, I operated one of those dozers, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #10

Semper Fi. NT Patton French Mar 30 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #20

Ooh Rah. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #21

Gross n/t Nutty Putty Mar 30 #26

Thank you. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #28

Real funny stuff ha ha. nt PufPuf23 Mar 30 #72

I thought so too. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #87

Know you did, my reply was sarcasm. nt PufPuf23 Mar 30 #89

I knew what you were saying, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #11

Disgusting Nutty Putty Mar 30 #24

And it was Just as wrong Avalon Sparks Mar 30 #71

DU was against this war sarisataka Mar 30 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author Avalon Sparks Mar 31 #122

Umm, you do realize that Desert Storm happened well before DU was created right? MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #111

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Whoops Avalon Sparks Mar 31 #124

No problemo. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 31 #130

Nothing justifies this evil malaise Mar 30 #4

Nothing justifies the evil spoken of in this thread. cayugafalls Mar 30 #22

"War is evil" PatSeg Mar 30 #25

We, the people, have always been canon fodder. cayugafalls Mar 30 #33

Well, at least today the madness is televised PatSeg Mar 30 #45

IDF has no interest in 2-state solution. louis-t Mar 30 #23

Oh so they were lining up to get food were they? EX500rider Mar 30 #27

They shot people seeking food. David__77 Mar 30 #32

And yet the link you provided calls it a "swarm" more then once EX500rider Mar 30 #37

The coverage was far from perfect. David__77 Mar 30 #39

Swarming for food. You wrote "attacking trucks" which is qite comical. No matter, we have all come to expect lies TeamProg Mar 30 #67

I bet the truck drivers felt like it was a attack on the trucks EX500rider Mar 30 #75

At least one driver was killed NorthCountryLib Mar 31 #139

The evidence showed people surrounded the trucks, killed some drivers NorthCountryLib Mar 31 #138

Yea, shame on starving people for trying to feed their families. cayugafalls Mar 30 #34

My objection was to characterizing a riot in progress as "lining up for food" EX500rider Mar 30 #38

Do you think it was justified to shoot them? David__77 Mar 30 #42

Were you there? MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author David__77 Mar 30 #46

Most of us saw the drone footage. It was almost a massacre. History will not be kind. nt TeamProg Mar 30 #70

The majority died in a stampede EX500rider Mar 30 #48

"The IDF says.." Enjoying the Kool-Aid I see. TeamProg Mar 30 #68

"Hamas says.." Right, always default to believing the terrorists....lol EX500rider Mar 30 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #91

And HAMAs says enjoying the propaganda. nt MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #91

I believe the IDF or Hamas every day of the week NorthCountryLib Mar 31 #140

Are you referring to Hamas' lies about the 30k+ dead, mass starvation, hospital bombings, shooting of TeamProg Mar 31 #141

Every military checkpoint in a active war zone EX500rider Mar 30 #59

My point was it is kind of hard to be orderly when you are dying. cayugafalls Mar 30 #44

Yeah, it is pretty easy for people in the U.S. PatSeg Mar 30 #50

Your impression was people "attacking trucks"? louis-t Mar 30 #60

Regardless of why that's what it boils down to EX500rider Mar 30 #61

They were fleeing because IDF started shooting. louis-t Mar 30 #63

HAMAS has NO interest in a 2 State Solution. Cha Mar 30 #118

these things happen *shrug* d_b Mar 30 #29

Post removed Post removed Mar 30 #31

Putin, Iran, and Hamas are in league and Al Jazeera is the Qatari government. gulliver Mar 30 #35

Do you think the killings of the people shown in the video are moral? David__77 Mar 30 #51

I didn't watch them, but you can tell me if they would have happened if Hamas hadn't attacked on Oct. 7 gulliver Mar 30 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #94

That's what it all comes down too, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #95

If Hamas hadn't attacked on Oct 7th, AloeVera Mar 30 #101

Well, that's a very argumentative and non-authoritatively accusatory thing to say. gulliver Mar 30 #102

I enjoy your writing. AloeVera Mar 30 #108

If The Fucking Butchers Of HAMAS Hadn't Started the WAR Committing Cha Mar 30 #104

Or if Israeli settlers didn't invade Palestinian designated lands. nt TeamProg Mar 31 #145

I think the settlements should be part of negotiations postwar gulliver Mar 31 #147

No, all settlers should be out, NOW! Never should have gone in TeamProg Mar 31 #149

Walked towards IDF troops, ignored orders to stop, ignored warning shots NickB79 Mar 30 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #40

Aww, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #41

Cut off Israel NOW! Sky Jewels Mar 30 #47

When Iran bombs the crap out of Israel will Netanyahu stop? flying_wahini Mar 30 #52

So it's "the Jews" now AZSkiffyGeek Mar 30 #53

Yeah, that was pretty obvious. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #54

Seeing more than normal this week AZSkiffyGeek Mar 30 #55

And notice there is no acknowledgement that the Jews Nixie Mar 30 #58

Sorry if that offended you. flying_wahini Mar 30 #109

It has always been about that. TheKentuckian Mar 31 #142

Oh, I know what they've meant since the beginning AZSkiffyGeek Mar 31 #146

When Jews feel targeted? Really ?!?!?!?! Mossfern Mar 30 #62

I may be presumptuous sarisataka Mar 30 #65

Not like they will in the future. They are controlling the narrative and doing it badly. flying_wahini Mar 30 #110

So if I am understanding you predict there will be another holocaust this time led by Iran sarisataka Mar 30 #114

Yup, the slip is showing AZSkiffyGeek Mar 30 #115

Of course not. But you have to admit Israel's genocide is a bit hard to swallow no matter who it is? flying_wahini Mar 31 #144

Now that IS presumptuous sarisataka Mar 31 #148

Wow!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Mar 31 #131

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"When Iran bombs the crap out of Israel " EX500rider Mar 30 #77

"The Jews" were "Targeted on Oct 7, 2023 by the Cha Mar 30 #119

Er... "the Jews"? Jews here in the US, and Israelis have seen a Rise in Anti-Semitism here, and in Europe! They... electric_blue68 Mar 31 #121

Anti-Jewish hate crimes quadrupled in San Francisco in 2023 Behind the Aegis Mar 31 #126

Iran has approximately zero capability to Voltaire2 Mar 31 #137

Rachel Corrie again? Ping Tung Mar 30 #64

Trying to stop a D9 armored bulldozer with your body was never going to be a good idea EX500rider Mar 30 #79

Destroying peoples' houses was always a bad idea..and still is. Ping Tung Mar 30 #82

They weren't even bulldozing houses when she was killed EX500rider Mar 30 #88

Reality check: It has never been about "destroying Hamas". TeamProg Mar 30 #69

100% agree with that opinion Avalon Sparks Mar 30 #73

If Israel was intent on "genocide" the death toll in Gaza after 1/2 a year would be in the 100's of thousands+ EX500rider Mar 30 #78

Have to give Bibi credit for not making too, too obvious. But yes, the goal is to get all Palestinians out of Israel. TeamProg Mar 30 #80

So how many Gazan's have been forced out of Gaza so far? EX500rider Mar 30 #81

Must I repeat myself? Come on kids, put on your "thinking caps"! I said "THE GOAL.." History will NOT be kind. nt TeamProg Mar 30 #85

So none, got it, it's part of some future secret plan that you heard on the internet maybe? EX500rider Mar 30 #86

I can imagine that response coming from the mind of a snotty child. Funny, huh? TeamProg Mar 30 #93

The rest can't escape Diraven Mar 30 #96

It is a siege, supported by the US. David__77 Mar 30 #97

Umm, you seem to be unaware that Egypt has blockaded their side of the border with Gaza MarineCombatEngineer Mar 30 #98

Then it's obvious Israel doesn't want them to leave? EX500rider Mar 30 #100

Egypt is charging Avalon Sparks Mar 31 #127

Well there's still over 2 million people in Gaza EX500rider Mar 31 #134

How so Avalon Sparks Mar 31 #125

Easy instead of trying to miss civilians they'd be trying to hit them EX500rider Mar 31 #133

They totally do. You can get 120 a day or less with bullets TheKentuckian Apr 2 #150

Thank you. That's a perfect description of what Israel's goals are. Hamas is their tool , everyone is Hamas. Autumn Mar 30 #105

Said it much better than I ever could. AloeVera Mar 30 #116

This is a shock to NO ONE... LowerManhattanite Mar 30 #99

This is what happens far too regularly when Palestinians innocently walk up to IDF NickB79 Mar 30 #103

But he was just an innocent child! AZSkiffyGeek Mar 30 #106

There are A LoT of these type of incidents JI7 Mar 31 #129

Cutting out the important part Mountainguy Mar 30 #113

It is not a war that Gaza started. N/T Big Blue Marble Mar 30 #117

Yes it is Mountainguy Mar 31 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author Avalon Sparks Mar 31 #128

It most certainly is, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 31 #135

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Mar 31 #136

It was an Easter Bunny from Pluto's moon. TheKentuckian Mar 31 #143