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slightlv

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26. I'm not an agriculturist, don't even play one on TV...!

Mon Apr 1, 2024, 04:08 PM

Apr 1

I am willing to bow to experts regarding the effect of climate change. Why not? CO2 effects so much negatively. But some of this, IMO, also has to be laid at the farmers' and especially corporate farmers' practices. We've lost the knowledge hard learned after the dust bowl days. Mono crop farming and not letting fields lay fallow, for example. A few years ago, I was working in a city 60+ minutes from the gym where I had a long-time membership. I kept it up for quite a while until the commute got to me. But there was one stretch where, when the wind was blowing, it was a blackout from the wall of dirt coming off the fields. I thought back to what I could remember of my dad teaching me about the dust bowl and great depression days. Thought this must have been a taste of what that looked like... especially to a kid like my dad at the time.

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Vegetables are losing their nutrients. Can the decline be reversed? [View all] Coventina Apr 1 OP

So, are chocolate chip cookies gaining nutrients??? barbaraann Apr 1 #1

it would be interesting to look at the new hybrid varieties vs the old heirloom types re nutritional content NewHendoLib Apr 1 #2

Seems like it's related to the climate more than anything. Elessar Zappa Apr 1 #9

It also has to do with big ag vs small farms and the different methods they use MadameButterfly Apr 1 #15

Can small farm models feed 8 billion people? CrispyQ Apr 1 #25

Yup, this is a self-correcting problem Random Boomer Apr 1 #29

Yes! if government wakes up and understands that soil erosion is destroying MadameButterfly Apr 2 #38

Some group did that a few years ago and found that the heirloom varieties are superior in nutrients. Lonestarblue Apr 1 #32

Makes my brain hurt. I'm thinking rising CO2 rapid growth? Reduced storage of nutrients? LeftInTX Apr 1 #3

Hybrids where they select Bettie Apr 1 #6

Yes, that seems more likely. The article mentions climate change and CO2. LeftInTX Apr 1 #8

So our/my thinking 'it doesn't taste as good as it used to' elleng Apr 1 #4

I know I read about this many, many years ago. CrispyQ Apr 1 #5

I remember an similar article back in the early 70's saying the soil's minerals Canoe52 Apr 1 #22

VERY subjective and no science here. But, I can tell. mucifer Apr 1 #7

Grow your own tomatoes and you'll never buy one in a store again MadameButterfly Apr 1 #16

So true. They're just icky. CrispyQ Apr 1 #27

Yep - point it out and get attacked though FreeState Apr 1 #20

Same here HighFired49 Apr 1 #24

Here's the science for you Random Boomer Apr 1 #30

Well, we do now have "Balance of Nature" caps HAB911 Apr 1 #10

Even the nutrients in the pills have to come from somewhere MadameButterfly Apr 1 #17

lol, obviously-the source is the same HAB911 Apr 1 #18

So the values in textbooks are outdated dalton99a Apr 1 #11

So probably the nutrition labels, too. -nt CrispyQ Apr 1 #28

Climate related, but also vegetables lose nutrients during storage. pandr32 Apr 1 #12

True LeftInTX Apr 1 #13

soil depletion. mopinko Apr 1 #14

Regenerative agriculture as described above MadameButterfly Apr 1 #21

If elevated CO2 levels are impacting vegetables... Kid Berwyn Apr 1 #19

Funny you should say that. IQ does indeed drop as CO2 rises NickB79 Apr 1 #23

I'm not an agriculturist, don't even play one on TV...! slightlv Apr 1 #26

Is that about the time they started genetically modifying crops in order to spray them with Roundup? appleannie1 Apr 1 #31

About 35 to 40 years ago. Around 1987 appleannie1 Apr 1 #33

Wow! It's a good thing I don't eat vegetables. n/t elocs Apr 1 #34

That is why I supplement my diet with soylent green. Chainfire Apr 1 #35

B-B-But..... vanlassie Apr 1 #36

Protein, just protein. Chainfire Apr 2 #37