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lees1975

(3,937 posts) Thu Apr 4, 2024, 10:39 AM Apr 4

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Go ahead, single-issue vote the Gaza War and see how that helps your cause. [View all]

Turning the Gaza War into a political liability for President Biden is perhaps the most ignorant, idiotic, stupid, self-defeating political act a Democrat can commit.

There's some real stupid stuff circulating around, more than likely interjected from Republican or Russian sources on the Gaza War aimed at stirring up trouble. If you're buying it, and that's going to be the single-issue that keeps you home in November, or leads you to vote for some third party candidate, and gets Trump elected, then you need to check your toilet because you've pooped your brains out somewhere along the way.

What the hell do you want him to do? He can't cut off aid to Israel with a majority Republican house. Remember, Trump got impeached the first time for messing with aid to Ukraine that Congress had already appropriated. He can't dictate foreign policy to a sovereign nation. He is putting pressure on Netanyahu, and it is having an effect, as the responses would indicate.

So do something really stupid and idiotic by staying home in protest, or voting third party and making sure the orange headed buffoon gets back in the White House. That will accelerate the bombing to make it possible for Trump's son in law to build his condo complex on the beach where Gaza used to be.

Good luck with that.

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Go ahead, single-issue vote the Gaza War and see how that helps your cause. [View all] lees1975 Apr 4 OP

Plus, I'm sure Netanyahu would like to see Trump back in the White House, how much of this is aimed at us Walleye Apr 4 #1

Much of it. And it's effective. lostnfound Apr 5 #103

When I read about the bombs Tree Lady Apr 4 #2

Yes. Those arms deals are approved by Congress, and it takes Congress to revoke them, not the President. lees1975 Apr 4 #3

NOT according to the Washington Post DLCWIdem Apr 4 #31

Link? Or better, relevant excerpt in case of pay wall? hay rick Apr 4 #40

Its coming. Didn't have time earlier DLCWIdem Apr 4 #44

If Congress appropriated the aid lees1975 Apr 4 #46

THIS! POTUS doesn't have the power. onecaliberal Apr 4 #89

If that's the case, then he also needs to go ahead and send aid to Ukraine without congressional approval. lees1975 Apr 4 #63

That's good to know. TY for your OP, lees. Cha Apr 4 #71

This suggests different: Scrivener7 Apr 5 #126

This religious war has literally been waged since the dawn of time, centuries B.C. lindysalsagal Apr 4 #4

Im so fkg sick of going thru this every 4 years Fullduplexxx Apr 4 #5

There wouldn't be anything left after a dictatorship. lees1975 Apr 4 #6

Not to mention thucythucy Apr 4 #54

There was no difference between Bush and Gore according to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 5 #127

these ppl who think joe is the king of the world make me crazy. mopinko Apr 4 #7

They do liberalmediaaddict Apr 4 #11

The same people who thought Obama could single handedly mandate single payer health insurance. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 4 #45

What? People are asking him to stop sending money and weapons to Israel Sky Jewels Apr 4 #14

DUH! Congress sends the money and weapons. AnrothElf Apr 4 #18

Not an equivalent situation. TomSlick Apr 4 #43

and it has to come from congress. mopinko Apr 4 #51

I'm skeptical "them's the rules." TomSlick Apr 4 #80

You're missing the point. The US gov't doesn't work that way. Congress holds the purse strings... AnrothElf Apr 4 #99

The President and Secretary of State seem to disagree. TomSlick Apr 5 #133

No they don't. Once again... willfully and in bad faith misstating the facts and casting aspersions. AnrothElf Apr 5 #134

You don't provide the bona fides for your legal opinion. TomSlick Apr 5 #137

No most are just asking that the aid be conditional DLCWIdem Apr 4 #20

He cannot cut off a congressional appropriation. lees1975 Apr 4 #47

Yes. It's almost like DIY brainwashing. The anti-Democratic propaganda works so well it takes hardly betsuni Apr 4 #8

It works great on Dems apparently if post 13 is any indication BannonsLiver Apr 4 #29

I won't. I will still vote Biden. But that doesn't AllyCat Apr 4 #9

There is absolutely nothing wrong with protesting to emphsize an issue walkingman Apr 4 #10

The two reasons I will vote for Biden this year. Ping Tung Apr 4 #12

Is your user name a reference to the city in Taiwan? HUAJIAO Apr 4 #62

It was (I don't know if it still exists) an airfield in Taiwan that we were briefly deployd to in 1962. Ping Tung Apr 4 #64

Yes Ping Tung is still there. I had a girlfriend from there some 25 years ago. HUAJIAO Apr 4 #98

Biden had better pay attention and cut off Israel ASAP or else Sky Jewels Apr 4 #13

Because? WA-03 Democrat Apr 4 #15

Right...because all the things people want Biden to do...they'll get from Trump. CincyDem Apr 5 #101

President Biden and the Executive Branch is only one part of our governent. Biophilic Apr 4 #17

I don't think the fake "leftist" crowd really cares about reality. AnrothElf Apr 4 #21

Yeah, I have some of the same feelings. Biophilic Apr 4 #23

A president is actually required to cut off aid if war crimes are occurring. Big Blue Marble Apr 4 #96

Ohhhh threats. BannonsLiver Apr 4 #30

Explain how he would go about doing that. lees1975 Apr 4 #48

You won't get a response. Whenever it comes to reality, there's only crickets Coventina Apr 4 #50

Biden is irrelevant. He isn't the one who will suffer TheKentuckian Apr 4 #70

Oh Pres Biden will "suffer" too.. you know why.. ? Cha Apr 4 #78

Punishers think all politicians are selfish elite crooks & liars only in office for money and power (status quo), betsuni Apr 4 #97

Pres Biden IS "PAYING ATTENTION", Sky Jewels. Cha Apr 4 #72

Or else? sheshe2 Apr 5 #104

Is there anyone on here taking that position? hueymahl Apr 4 #16

"Is there anyone on here taking that position? AZ8theist Apr 4 #19

I disagree hueymahl Apr 4 #25

No, that post is a threat. n/t Coventina Apr 4 #28

Agreed! sheshe2 Apr 5 #107

People who express concern that "Biden's support for Israel" might damage his re-election chances, causing sop Apr 4 #39

Lot of assumptions there hueymahl Apr 4 #68

Noting is "immoral" from Pres Biden. Cha Apr 4 #81

Did you mean to Say Nothing? hueymahl Apr 4 #88

Don't be accusing anyone who supports PJB Cha Apr 4 #92

No one said he was immoral, Cha hueymahl Apr 4 #94

Yes they do. The ones chanting "Genocide Joe," saying things like "I'm not Palestinian but I do have morals and betsuni Apr 5 #100

The old WHY DO YOU THINK THEY'RE PERFECT! straw man. betsuni Apr 5 #108

Oh Yes I remember.. Damn Stragight I'm a "cheerleader" FOR Cha Apr 5 #110

Of course, honest debate is a good thing and always necessary in a healthy democracy. sop Apr 4 #82

Where is Biden supporting Israel "so blatantly." lees1975 Apr 4 #49

It's not up for discussion that we support Israel hueymahl Apr 4 #87

You just implied something awful about everyone who disagrees with you. ShazzieB Apr 5 #123

Thank you for that hueymahl Apr 5 #135

Well, let's see. lees1975 Apr 5 #131

It's a start hueymahl Apr 5 #136

The media has been pushing the Gaza/young people narrative relentlessly. hay rick Apr 4 #42

I am trying to look at this as an opportunity DLCWIdem Apr 4 #22

What happens if Netanyahu doesn't listen? Coventina Apr 4 #27

Amen!! AnrothElf Apr 4 #35

Rarely works. They complain, Biden does or says what they want as much as he is able, then betsuni Apr 4 #69

War in the middle-east is not something new. Say that in one-hundred years and it will be true then too. twodogsbarking Apr 4 #24

If Trump were in charge right now Johnny2X2X Apr 4 #26

But he's not, so now he's trying to move to the left of Biden on Gaza BeyondGeography Apr 4 #32

Not really Johnny2X2X Apr 4 #33

For the last two weeks he has been saying Israel has been losing support BeyondGeography Apr 4 #34

Who are you talking to?? Muslims in this country, Palestinians who have lost family members or entire Pisces Apr 4 #36

No skin in the game?!?!?! Are you being serious?!?!?! Coventina Apr 4 #52

The OP is Obviously Talking to "Single issue" voters. Cha Apr 4 #84

I think an ad reminding voters BlueKota Apr 5 #121

amen prodigitalson Apr 4 #37

To think the guy ejbr Apr 4 #38

The Kushner's are old family friends with Netanyahu Walleye Apr 5 #113

This! Seinan Sensei Apr 5 #128

Preface my comments angrychair Apr 4 #41

do u think he's doing nothing? mopinko Apr 4 #53

Yes... there are many who refuse to live in the real world. Oopsie Daisy Apr 4 #75

Declare Israel a terrorist state and send the Marines into Gaza? Patton French Apr 4 #65

I see you're a resident of the real world too. Howdy, Neighbor! Oopsie Daisy Apr 4 #77

Howdy! Patton French Apr 4 #93

Holy crap Mountainguy Apr 4 #91

Indeed NT Patton French Apr 4 #95

Currently the U.S. has sanctions on 20 countries, including North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Syria, Iran shrike3 Apr 4 #90

Wow... Think. Again. Apr 4 #55

That should work both ways. thucythucy Apr 4 #56

I disagree... Think. Again. Apr 4 #58

I don't disagree. thucythucy Apr 4 #59

I understand that... Think. Again. Apr 4 #60

Then they are just making an excuse to defend their indefensible ways that they don't really want to change. W_HAMILTON Apr 4 #67

I'm extremely anti-rightwing myself... Think. Again. Apr 4 #76

The problem with your argument is that theirs is not a rational decision because like too many on the Left elocs Apr 4 #57

If TFG is re-elected, the TFG will give Bibi green light to destroy Gaza LetMyPeopleVote Apr 4 #61

Yes, but... for some, it's more important to "punish" Biden and the Democrats * Oopsie Daisy Apr 4 #79

If we had voted Hillary Clinton in 2016, the bottom three far-right Justices would not be in the Supreme Court. LetMyPeopleVote Apr 5 #106

Yes, those Threatening PJB don't care that TSF would Cha Apr 4 #83

These are the same idiotic people that helped kill off Roe, prevented $10k-$20k student loan cancellation... W_HAMILTON Apr 4 #66

The whole "we can't vote for Biden because of xyz" thing has worn thin LetMyPeopleVote Apr 4 #73

Yes! That sums it up perfectly! Oopsie Daisy Apr 4 #74

We lost Roe v. Wade and the SCOTUS due to voters who thought that Hillary was not pure enough for them LetMyPeopleVote Apr 4 #86

I remember people getting mad at being reminded about the importance of the SCOTUS betsuni Apr 5 #102

Hillary warned us LetMyPeopleVote Apr 5 #105

I can't help being cranky with the "Hillary was right" now thing because trashing her in 2016 was ubiquitous. betsuni Apr 5 #120

I remember them calling everybody "corporate Democrats" Walleye Apr 5 #114

I asked a million times who the corporate Democrats were. Who changed their votes and policies betsuni Apr 5 #117

As bad as the people who think Joe Biden would sell out his country for a few bucks after dedicating his whole life Walleye Apr 5 #119

Even worse some referred to Hillary supporters as "vagina voters" Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 5 #129

Exactly.. "Not Electing Hilary was Our Biggest Mistake"!! Cha Apr 5 #109

"..Don't worry We'll Save you Anyway.." Cha Apr 4 #85

Carter lost, I think, in 1980 mainly because conservative 'Reagan Democrats' voted Rethug. I think that, plus Reagan's Celerity Apr 5 #111

Whites shifted Republican beginning in the '60s (when union membership was high, inequality low, betsuni Apr 5 #115

Yes, the Southern Strategy of Nixon and the Rethugs, plus the beginning of the RW evangelical poltical movement, both of Celerity Apr 5 #118

"The burnt fool's bandaged finger goes wobbling back towards the fire" Walleye Apr 5 #112

hmmm somehow backing war criminals and genocide seems wrong dembotoz Apr 5 #116

I don't support what Netanyahu is doing. BlueKota Apr 5 #122

our outlets to demonstrate our dislike for gaza treatement are limited. dembotoz Apr 5 #130

Seriously Nutty Putty Apr 5 #124

Just ran across this on the santita Jackson show edisdead Apr 5 #125

Biden just did what ya'll seem to think he can't do. He leaned on Nutanyahoo and made him open Autumn Apr 5 #132

These "Don't you DARE care about the slaughter of innocent Palestinians" threads are getting old Bucky Apr 5 #138

Supporting TFG to make a point on Gaza is not a good move LetMyPeopleVote Apr 6 #139