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malaise

(269,237 posts) Thu Apr 4, 2024, 08:42 PM Apr 4

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Nothing justifies this response [View all]

Looks like more and more Dems are saying this publicly
Stop selling them weapons and giving them money.
Thanks Peter Welsh - that was refreshing.

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Nothing justifies this response [View all] malaise Apr 4 OP

Yep, it's time after 75 years. brush Apr 4 #1

Yah think malaise Apr 4 #2

Yes, let's make a dent in the debt. stollen Apr 4 #8

How is it at Israel's expense? brush Apr 5 #11

Over 30 thousand dead Palestinians malaise Apr 5 #13

I guess the dead Jews TexasDem69 Apr 5 #61

Time-and-a-half past time... and more! WheelWalker Apr 5 #51

You want to stop giving Israel weapons? TexasDem69 Apr 5 #59

A stop to giving weapons to corrupt warmonger Netanyahu who we know... brush Apr 6 #88

I was just about to say something about this. qwlauren35 Apr 4 #3

If Israel weren't a generally useful US proxy in that region... Orrex Apr 4 #9

Why would we stop giving Israel weapons? TexasDem69 Apr 5 #62

Of the UK, Germany, France and Israel... Orrex Apr 5 #76

In what way have they been one of the choie Apr 5 #82

In what way have they been one of our choie Apr 5 #83

The ONLY reason evangelicals support Israel is they want it destroyed. AZ8theist Apr 4 #10

So few understand how this kind of religious insanity influences our policies. Scrivener7 Apr 5 #15

That isn't the only reason. All Mixed Up Apr 5 #23

Don't forget Israel's attack on the USS Liberty or their spying on US citizens (NSO Pegasus) erronis Apr 5 #26

Never forget the USS Liberty. Basic LA Apr 5 #33

I did 40 because I wanted to include the Gulf War. That's it. All Mixed Up Apr 5 #43

I agree with your reasons. Neocons need Israel as a beachhead in that area. erronis Apr 5 #44

As soon as I heard about the World Central Kitchen attack COL Mustard Apr 5 #52

Trump saying move US Embassy to Jerusalem, when he was POTUS, was a big pander to US Evangelicals Attilatheblond Apr 5 #28

All nonsense.... AZ8theist Apr 5 #58

there will be piece in the middle east rampartc Apr 5 #54

Well said malaise Apr 5 #12

"Major" Evangelical Christians are " Pro Israel" because of Armageddon. haele Apr 5 #17

No cause justifies the deaths of innocent people. Albert Camus Ping Tung Apr 5 #18

"Everything we do is justified" Ghazi Hamad sarisataka Apr 5 #19

I'm with Camus on this. Ping Tung Apr 5 #27

Does that mean that war is never justified? LauraInLA Apr 5 #35

It means killing innocents for some cause isn't justified. Ping Tung Apr 5 #36

But sometimes innocents are killed -- does that mean we should never fight a war? LauraInLA Apr 5 #37

I'm thinking about the WKC and other aid workers. Ping Tung Apr 5 #38

This is not a war MorbidButterflyTat Apr 5 #81

My parents thought Hiroshima and Nagasaki were RubyRose Apr 5 #74

Ask the innocent victims in Japan choie Apr 5 #84

There would have been 5x the Japanese dead in a invasion, and starvation due to the blockade EX500rider Apr 6 #96

Were you opposed to U.S. involvement in WW II? former9thward Apr 5 #45

I was opposed to the war crimes of killing civilians. Ping Tung Apr 5 #48

I am referring to the quote you posted. former9thward Apr 5 #50

I'm sticking with Camus. Ping Tung Apr 5 #57

The Liberation of France was a war crime? Mountainguy Apr 5 #60

The Nazis believed they were protecting their country and people as a just case Ping Tung Apr 5 #69

So did the U.S. retaliation in WW 2 reflect a war crime? TexasDem69 Apr 5 #64

Yes. Killing civilians is a war crime. Ping Tung Apr 5 #70

Some wars are unjustified TexasDem69 Apr 5 #73

Congressional support for Israel OrangeJoe Apr 5 #46

They ARE in the majority... tableturner Apr 5 #79

I was thinking that about 3-4 months ago... Wounded Bear Apr 4 #4

This advice should have been listened to o many moons ago dai13sy Apr 4 #5

President Biden has been putting pressure on Bibi KS Toronado Apr 4 #6

He can do a lot more than he is doing: Scrivener7 Apr 5 #16

And I guess he should be able to get Putin to stop also? KS Toronado Apr 5 #31

What is your evidence that Farnoush Amiri of AP is 'right leaning'? TIA Celerity Apr 5 #72

Clicked on their name and read some of their articles KS Toronado Apr 5 #86

Do you have some things that you can specifically show? She is not 'right leaning' IMHO. Celerity Apr 6 #87

Have a nice day KS Toronado Apr 6 #94

That meme is, IMHO, more germane in regards to you than me. Celerity Apr 6 #95

Cut 'em off AverageOldGuy Apr 4 #7

So Hamas gets shot that goes boom? TexasDem69 Apr 5 #65

I'm glad people are saying this in conversation. It's a talk that's been waiting too long. marble falls Apr 5 #14

The threads have seemed to devolve quickly into senseless name-calling. Scrivener7 Apr 5 #22

I have been watching from the sidelines not wanting have any harsh words with people I respect ... marble falls Apr 5 #29

Yes. WheelWalker Apr 5 #53

You're exactly right. I've been sitting them out largely for that reason Docreed2003 Apr 6 #92

The other thing to limit is Foreign Aid. Make it contingent. Ford_Prefect Apr 5 #20

Iran is not a recipient of US foreign aid. maxsolomon Apr 5 #21

We have an ongoing if difficult diplomatic relationship with Iran. Iran can be negotiated with as was done in the past. Ford_Prefect Apr 5 #24

Qatar has something we want. Al Udied. maxsolomon Apr 5 #25

Israel has gotten the lions share of "Foreign aid" for decades. I remember in Reagan years when we were subsidising ... marble falls Apr 5 #30

Your memory may be faulty. former9thward Apr 5 #49

Excellent point malaise Apr 5 #47

+1 TeamProg Apr 5 #32

There have been . . . Richard D Apr 5 #34

Plenty of "new history" devotees here in regard to WW2. BannonsLiver Apr 5 #55

Whoa JustAnotherGen Apr 5 #78

Yes, stop all weapons and financial assistance; send humanitarian aid only. Magoo48 Apr 5 #39

If you look... Snackshack Apr 5 #40

Paint them in a corner malaise Apr 5 #41

Hamas is evil but there has to be another way. honest.abe Apr 5 #42

Cool what is that other way? TexasDem69 Apr 5 #68

False, Israel be humane and some other power leads a Palestinian state. Hamas nor Bibi wants any of that ... uponit7771 Apr 6 #90

Hamas feeds on the desperation and poverty of Palestinians. Aussie105 Apr 5 #56

"Your logic for waging war on me and killing my people is irrefutable." Aussie105 Apr 5 #63

That simple malaise Apr 5 #66

The elimination of a persistent threat to the people of the attacked nation TheKentuckian Apr 5 #71

Thank you. Richard D Apr 5 #75

K&R spanone Apr 5 #67

DURec leftstreet Apr 5 #77

You gotta know who else agrees with this and is all on Biden's side now. Richard D Apr 5 #80

Recommended. H2O Man Apr 5 #85

It's that simple malaise Apr 6 #89

Which response ? Xoan Apr 6 #91

K&R ck4829 Apr 6 #93