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Irish_Dem

(47,885 posts) Tue Apr 9, 2024, 05:55 PM Apr 9

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Men would never tolerate it. [View all]

Men would never tolerate restrictions on their sexuality or related medical care.

Men would never tolerate being sent to a hospital parking lot to die.

Men would never tolerate being sent to prison for health care decisions.

Men would never tolerate their doctors being sent to prison for proving medical care to males.

Is this why the GOP targets only females when it comes to reproductive issues.
Men are half the reproductive equation, but women are the targets.

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Men would never tolerate it. [View all] Irish_Dem Apr 9 OP

What would men MOMFUDSKI Apr 9 #1

Insurrection. Irish_Dem Apr 9 #3

Would masturbation be allowed in jail? JoseBalow Apr 9 #12

I don't know that is it now. soldierant Apr 9 #33

The way I understand it, you don't want to be on laundry duty on sock day. Orrex Apr 9 #36

Not surprising - but that doesn't mean it's allowed, that means soldierant Apr 9 #38

If masturbation is made illegal, it will only be for females. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #62

Insurrection would be suicide by cop - or the U.S. military. Martin68 Apr 10 #108

No. White males become heroes and get a slap on the wrist. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #109

Only if there is a GOP president. Martin68 Apr 10 #110

No. Courts giving slap on the wrists now. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #111

Are...are you saying women "tolerate" these things? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 9 #2

The subject of my post is the psychosocial aspects of male behavior. Irish_Dem Apr 9 #4

But men *do* tolerate those things. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 9 #7

Would straight white males tolerate sexual control and punishment? Irish_Dem Apr 9 #21

You're eventually have to discuss women subjugation of women. MerryBlooms Apr 9 #44

Many women vote against their own interests intheflow Apr 9 #46

Excellent point. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #61

Some members of a subjugated class will align with the powerful oppressors. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #60

Some women do - and some, like men, revel in the fact they can force their views on other women. Probatim Apr 9 #6

Some members of a subjugated group willingly assist the power structure. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #63

Some people will just do anything for power. hadEnuf Apr 10 #84

Too many men bluescribbler Apr 9 #5

This! Fuck the patriarchy. onecaliberal Apr 9 #27

This is what I think bdamomma Apr 9 #45

And they pretend their no -existent sky wizard is a male. Sky Jewels Apr 10 #49

Males are taught they have a God given right to their sexuality and body. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #64

The first step on the way.... SergeStorms Apr 9 #8

Excellent point. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #65

I would never have to tolerate it Progressive dog Apr 9 #9

But men are half the reproduction equation. Irish_Dem Apr 9 #16

But men aren't ever pregnant Progressive dog Apr 10 #119

Yes I agree. Men should not control women for any reason. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #121

Also the issue is not really about pregnancy or abortion. Irish_Dem Apr 9 #23

Nailed it! This right here FakeNoose Apr 9 #35

Many men are pro-abortion and many women are not. twodogsbarking Apr 9 #10

"Pro-abortion"? marybourg Apr 10 #55

A vital point. Pro-abortion RIGHTS (or, simply, pro-choice) DFW Apr 10 #56

OK. Good greif. twodogsbarking Apr 10 #81

Well, excuuuuse. me. twodogsbarking Apr 10 #80

You've missed the point. Scrivener7 Apr 10 #104

So have you. twodogsbarking Apr 10 #106

Men still have an edge in money and parlay that to the (largely) male political class and bucolic_frolic Apr 9 #11

Thank you. raccoon Apr 9 #20

Yes white straight males targeting an historically subjugated class. Irish_Dem Apr 9 #22

I agree completely. onecaliberal Apr 9 #29

Woman's rights and Obama and religious backlash. lindysalsagal Apr 9 #13

This man doesn't want those restrictions for women either IronLionZion Apr 9 #14

Are you an outlier or the norm? Irish_Dem Apr 10 #72

There should be plenty of male allies on the left IronLionZion Apr 10 #78

Given this thread's points, and the current balances of power, Tetrachloride Apr 9 #15

Excellent question Tetra. Irish_Dem Apr 9 #17

Great topic SARose Apr 9 #25

Good points. Irish_Dem Apr 9 #28

Wondering about how women could pull off a tax revolt Attilatheblond Apr 9 #19

Yes several comments about a strike of some sort. Irish_Dem Apr 9 #30

But men seem to tolerate Hope22 Apr 9 #18

Women need male allies. Irish_Dem Apr 9 #31

I beg the men in my life to write the emails, make the calls! Hope22 Apr 9 #34

I hear you. I just get a nod or a "yeah" when I speak to men in my family Deuxcents Apr 9 #40

My heart goes out to you. Hope22 Apr 10 #54

Males are deeply habituated to female subjugation. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #66

Why do smart, good men do nothing? Irish_Dem Apr 10 #59

Yes women have suffered and sacrificed for our rights! Hope22 Apr 10 #87

Just the right to vote was a very brutal battle. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #98

If roles were reversed and women had all the power Tree Lady Apr 9 #24

I have actually seen women forced into psych care for reasons you describe. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #67

What if women held all the power on the planet? Irish_Dem Apr 10 #70

American women need to wise up dlk Apr 9 #26

"wise up"? Really? Not Heidi Apr 10 #53

How does a subjugated class obtain equal rights? Irish_Dem Apr 10 #68

Yes, too many women are passive about their rights dlk Apr 10 #93

A Hobby Lobby plot twist SARose Apr 9 #32

The religious right cannot convince people to willingly accept their rules. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #69

I think women will show they won't tolerate it either this November. Elessar Zappa Apr 9 #37

Only women?? Sogo Apr 9 #42

I for one, is one of those guys... William Gustafson Apr 9 #47

I for one support a women's choice, and I am a male... William Gustafson Apr 9 #48

No, many men too. Elessar Zappa Apr 10 #50

History tells us that the oppressor class does not rescue the subjugated class. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #71

Your lips to Bob's ears. n/t Not Heidi Apr 10 #51

Republicans offer this... keithbvadu2 Apr 9 #39

The GOP believes attacking subjugated groups will get them elected to office. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #73

era et tu Apr 9 #41

Highly unlikely the male power structure will pass the ERA. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #74

and that is exactly et tu Apr 10 #86

Excellent points. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #97

There is no pregnancy without a sperm donor. Why are the men not responsible for anything here? OMGWTF Apr 9 #43

The point of my OP is that men will never tolerate any sexuality restrictions. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #75

I'm not sure H2O Man Apr 10 #52

They aren't EVEN thinking about that scenario. Sorry to disappoint you, but those thoughts do not register TeamProg Apr 10 #57

And men would never do it, wouldn't even occur to them. betsuni Apr 10 #58

Wonen, not females obamanut2012 Apr 10 #76

You are 100% incorrect. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #77

I don't think we read the same post. It seemed pretty clear to me. Vinca Apr 10 #79

Then you need to educate yourself about the manosphere and the use of female as a noun obamanut2012 Apr 10 #112

I'm more concerned with actions than words. Vinca Apr 11 #124

Sure seems like people want to argue. twodogsbarking Apr 10 #82

....about what? N/t Hope22 Apr 10 #88

Exactly. twodogsbarking Apr 10 #89

Let me clarify... Hope22 Apr 10 #90

Some of the DU crowd seem to want to just disagree. Not a comment about choice. twodogsbarking Apr 10 #91

I am disagreeing with the OP , which I am allowed to do obamanut2012 Apr 10 #113

I wasn't referencing you. twodogsbarking Apr 10 #115

IMO its Christian perversion apnu Apr 10 #83

This this this SARose Apr 10 #92

Religions say women are to blame because men cannot control their sexual urges? Irish_Dem Apr 10 #102

You aren't wrong. apnu Apr 10 #103

Oh yes, the Taliban has made it clear how they see women. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #105

there was a case here in il a while back. a kid needed a transplant. mopinko Apr 10 #85

A most SUPERB and THOUGHT PROVOKING post. ProudMNDemocrat Apr 10 #94

Thanks Proud. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #101

This is proof that regarding the mechanics of starting human pregnancy LastDemocratInSC Apr 10 #95

Yes the recipient is the one who is sent to die or go to jail. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #100

OLD men would never tolerate it HAB911 Apr 10 #96

The old men are the ones sending the kids into battle. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #99

And they sell the honor every chance they get. twodogsbarking Apr 10 #107

no viagra for thee either. AllaN01Bear Apr 10 #114

This is not a male vs. female issue. twodogsbarking Apr 10 #116

The American power structure is mostly male. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #117

All that and more. It is not a male vs. female issue. twodogsbarking Apr 10 #118

Facts are facts. Irish_Dem Apr 10 #120

But this... twodogsbarking Apr 10 #122

Women's rights are totally on the whim of the male power structure. Irish_Dem Apr 11 #125

Men need to rally for the cause. It is their cause too. I am insulted to be included with twodogsbarking Apr 11 #126

It is not male vs female. Face the facts even if painful. twodogsbarking Apr 10 #123