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63. You can debate the merits of this childish desire

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 02:30 AM

Apr 17

to destroy Israel

Ain’t happening. Ever. Everyone else in history who tried to destroy Jews as a civilization wound up destroying themselves.

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USC says it's canceling pro-Palestinian valedictorian's speech over security concerns [View all] Coventina Apr 16 OP

The learning continues long after school's over. calimary Apr 16 #1

Being that this is government action, free speech is very much a concern here. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 16 #2

Absolutely not! No one calling for mass murder should be honored. n/t Coventina Apr 16 #3

But she still is the valedictorian. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 16 #4

Too bad, so sad. Her threatening posts on social media Coventina Apr 16 #5

Where did she call for mass murder? Big Blue Marble Apr 16 #16

Are you claiming that the eradication of Israel would NOT be mass murder? Coventina Apr 16 #17

The term that was used in link Big Blue Marble Apr 16 #21

Please explain how "abolishment" would work without mass murder. Coventina Apr 16 #22

Organized states come and go throughout history. Big Blue Marble Apr 16 #28

Dissolving is not abolishment. Coventina Apr 16 #32

The vision that many Palestinians share is Big Blue Marble Apr 16 #35

You think the UN is going to "dissolve" Israel? Coventina Apr 16 #38

Slow down; this is not my vision; this is the vision of many like Asna Tabassum. Big Blue Marble Apr 16 #42

There are already large numbers of Muslims in Israel! Coventina Apr 16 #45

They are second class citizens who live in fear and many restrictions. Big Blue Marble Apr 16 #47

Calling for the end of Israel is antisemitic and calling for the eradication of Jews. Coventina Apr 16 #53

That is your opinion and we will just have to disagree on both counts. N/T Big Blue Marble Apr 16 #54

You wouldn't happen to have a link proving the claim sarisataka Apr 16 #40

The Idea of a One State Solution is gaining support both in Palestine Big Blue Marble Apr 16 #46

As Wikipedia itself notes, there is no reference when the alleged support increased sarisataka Apr 16 #49

Some Jewish zionists wanted Israel to be a secular nation. PufPuf23 Apr 17 #77

The military branches of Palestinians, Hamas and Hezbollah, wnylib Apr 16 #37

Not to mention the Palestinian Authority has a "Pay to Slay" program that rewards Coventina Apr 16 #39

How do you actually get from murderous Hamas to Asna Tabassum? Big Blue Marble Apr 16 #43

From the OP, it appears that she does support wnylib Apr 16 #50

Well Said, wnylib TY! Cha Apr 17 #64

Well, I'm damned tired of so much misinformation fueling wnylib Apr 17 #68

☝ THIS! ☝ ShazzieB Apr 17 #74

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How does a unitary Israel without a two state solution occur PufPuf23 Apr 17 #80

I also want a two-state solution, but that is not what this student is advocating. n/t Coventina Apr 17 #81

She didn't call for mass murder obamanut2012 Apr 16 #23

How would that work, without mass murder? Coventina Apr 16 #27

USC is a private school AZSkiffyGeek Apr 16 #6

My bad. I read it in my head as UCLA. Not sure why. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 16 #9

Public v. private universities mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #13

Its not a government action. former9thward Apr 16 #25

USC is a private university. Valedictorians earn their spot spooky3 Apr 16 #29

They describe a selection process in the article Prairie Gates Apr 17 #78

Government action? Zeitghost Apr 16 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Apr 17 #60

I think Ontheboundry Apr 17 #76

The Question is Open as to Whether a Jewish Ethno-State is Justified Considering the Holocaust Giordano Burno Apr 16 #7

The question is not open, it was done, whether anyone agrees with it or not. Coventina Apr 16 #8

Where does she say "annihilation"? Giordano Burno Apr 16 #18

Calling for the erasure (however worded) of Israel is antisemitism. Coventina Apr 16 #19

The phrase was Giordano Burno Apr 16 #41

None of your examples in any way equates to the nation of Israel. None. Coventina Apr 16 #44

If my Home was an Antebellum Plantation Giordano Burno Apr 16 #58

The "stupid animals in Congress"? ShazzieB Apr 17 #61

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👍 ShazzieB Apr 17 #72

You comparing the nation of Israel to a slave-based plantation is extremely gross and offensive. Coventina Apr 17 #62

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chattel slavery and the situation in the Middle East are in NO WAY comparable! Coventina Apr 17 #69

I absosolutely agree, Coventina! ShazzieB Apr 17 #73

No need to apologize! You are 100% correct! Coventina Apr 17 #75

Whatever she wishes about Isreael it's Not Cha Apr 17 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Apr 16 #31

Your history is a bit off. Jews are indigenous to Palestine, wnylib Apr 16 #48

Your 4th paragraph Mountainguy Apr 16 #57

Security concerns from whom? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 16 #10

I think it's concern about fights between the two sides. n/t Coventina Apr 16 #12

Should have been done out of taste. BannonsLiver Apr 16 #11

Oh wow.. I was wondering why Cha Apr 16 #14

Ironic, right?! Behind the Aegis Apr 16 #20

Exactly LeftInTX Apr 16 #24

Oh Wow.. Exactly! Cha Apr 16 #26

Good. nt LexVegas Apr 16 #15

Great decision by USC. She doesn't get to inflict herself Nixie Apr 16 #30

Inflammatory political speeches have no place at commencement ceremonies. sop Apr 16 #51

Where does it say her speech is inflammatory? Big Blue Marble Apr 16 #56

Her social media posts called for the "complete abolishment of the state of Israel." SunSeeker Apr 17 #59

But how do we know that is what her speech would be? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 17 #70

Are you suggesting USC should give its mic to someone who believes Israel should be "completely abolished"? SunSeeker Apr 17 #71

Judging from the comments on this thread alone, it's clear her commencement address would have created sop Apr 17 #65

Way to lead the next Generation USC!.. Not. Westcoast4life Apr 16 #33

It's Not USC who is in the Wrong. Cha Apr 16 #36

The university made the correct decision. beaglelover Apr 16 #34

There's a reason the nickname used to be AkFemDem Apr 16 #52

You can debate the merits of this childish desire PCIntern Apr 17 #63

I get what you are saying, but i worry where this is going. karynnj Apr 17 #82

This never was about the content of her intended speech. Big Blue Marble Apr 17 #83

USC: Don't blame Jews for canceling your valedictorian Behind the Aegis Apr 18 #85

Rob Eshman makes a Lot of sense. Cha Apr 18 #88

USC has a right to defend itself! Bucky Apr 18 #86

I think should've let her speak. Either she was going to create a disturbance or she wasn't. betsuni Apr 18 #87