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ismnotwasm

(41,998 posts)
48. I see people aren't reading your full post
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 12:43 PM
Apr 18

Last edited Thu Apr 18, 2024, 01:26 PM - Edit history (1)

War always sucks. We live in a patriarchal, hierarchical society that has largely decided, for as long as human have existed apparently, that killing each other is the correct response.

So let’s say, after the actions of Hamas, Israel took another route. Brought the leaders of Hamas to the negotiating table. Said something to the effect of. “We hear you, we see you, how can we resolve this”

The response of Hamas could have been, “oh yeah bruh, my bad, see we don't believe you have a right to the land you are on, and we want Israel not to exist at all”
And then Israel says “I feel you, my dude, but we are here, we are established, this is our historical homeland so to speak, we aren’t going anywhere, what else can we do besides not exist?”

Hamas, well hell, my friend, it looks like we are at an impasse, because eradicating Israel is our literal
stated reason for existing, I don’t know what to tell you 🤷 , also you guys suck, you stole our land, we want it back”
Israel “oh come on now, where are we to go? What else you got? Cause we are powerful enough to bomb you to infinity, and we will do so if necessary
Hamas “Idgaf Bro, youse needs to be gone, or we are gonna crawl up in your ass and do more violence. You see all those countries that are your neighbors? They all hate you. ALL OF THEM. A couple of them keep us well supplied in fact. You know what? bomb away, you just look like an asshole. The Gaza Strip is tiny. And it’s crowded. Bomb away—everyone else is going to hate you too.

Israel “We understand we are hated. We were slaughtered by the millions out of hatred. Israel is the result of that slaughter. This is nothing new. We even have a word for it “anti-semitism”

Hamas “hahaha, nice one. Let me put it this way. You will always live in fear. But hey, at least you got great burn centers out of it. We ain’t gonna stop until you are gone. Go negotiate with someone who gives a fuck.


And so on.

I respect anti-war folk. I despise anti-war disguised as anti-semitism. Right now? It’s difficult to tell them apart sometimes

Ummm... Hope22 Apr 14 #1
I am opposed to killing. MuseRider Apr 14 #2
Agree.... Hope22 Apr 14 #4
r mdmc Apr 14 #5
Which Iraq war? Stargleamer Apr 14 #3
r mdmc Apr 14 #7
Why did you oppose gulf war 1? Mosby Apr 17 #23
Checking in snowybirdie Apr 14 #6
Here. broiles Apr 14 #8
What "better idea' has Dennis Kucinich ever had? brooklynite Apr 14 #9
I started opposing war when I was in the marines. Ping Tung Apr 14 #10
thanks for the post mdmc Apr 14 #15
lol Dennis Kucinich with a good idea? Elessar Zappa Apr 14 #11
... Sky Jewels Apr 14 #12
Kick Eko Apr 14 #13
I opposed/oppose both. Crunchy Frog Apr 14 #14
agreed mdmc Apr 17 #16
So which is it? The post with which you agree is different from your OP question everything Apr 17 #34
It isn't "total" enough, they still have not surrendered TheKentuckian Apr 17 #39
Or maybe they could employ a response that was more effective and efficient, Crunchy Frog Apr 18 #49
So what kind of force would you use for destroying underground tunnels? wnylib Apr 18 #51
Count me in Jokerman Apr 17 #17
I remember when we were told PatSeg Apr 17 #20
How about Afghanistan JI7 Apr 17 #18
You could at least spell Israel correctly Danmel Apr 17 #19
I think the issue is the nature of that response PatSeg Apr 17 #22
The required response is sufficient force to dictate an unconditional surrender or the utter annihilation of capacity TheKentuckian Apr 19 #58
I have kept my mouth shut but can't any longer happybird Apr 17 #31
Glad you were finally able to get your feelings out about Jews and Israel. BannonsLiver Apr 17 #37
Thanks happybird Apr 17 #41
Probably for the best. BannonsLiver Apr 18 #47
It is always so helpful when someone can 'splain anti-Semitism to Jews. Behind the Aegis Apr 17 #45
Outstanding statement, Happybird! Bravo! Basic LA Apr 18 #53
Fixed just for you Danmel mdmc Apr 17 #42
Here cally Apr 17 #21
As a citizen, there isn't much I can do to stop war. LeftInTX Apr 17 #24
I oppose both (well, opposed Iraq) and in a weird coincidence Bettie Apr 17 #25
Still won't correct the Israel spelling? NoRethugFriends Apr 17 #26
This is how it starts. Diminish the identity and then the physical. question everything Apr 17 #29
Might as well add Hitler, the take over of Europe, the concentration camps question everything Apr 17 #27
The thousand year reich would be going strong had they been in the White House. BannonsLiver Apr 17 #38
Despite being a pacifist who doesn't have a problem LeonidPlanck Apr 17 #28
They can lay down their arms, release any hostages they haven't murdered, and fucking surrender. TheKentuckian Apr 17 #40
Me! Me! Me! Lunabell Apr 17 #30
Total peacenik here Tree Lady Apr 17 #32
yes mike_c Apr 17 #33
Doesn't Kucinich support the Russian invasion of Ukraine? Pretty Fly Apr 17 #35
Dennis Kucinich is a Putinite. BannonsLiver Apr 17 #36
Dennis Kucinich left the Democratic Party. He was RFK Jr's campaign manager. LeftInTX Apr 17 #43
I was Against the War in Iraq.. We All were and Fuck GD Butchers in HAMAs Cha Apr 17 #44
I opposed the Ira1 War edhopper Apr 17 #46
I see people aren't reading your full post ismnotwasm Apr 18 #48
Thanks for your post mdmc Apr 18 #50
Yet another attempt to divide DU. edisdead Apr 18 #52
War is never an answer LiberaBlueDem Apr 18 #54
I am opposed to all war quaker bill Apr 18 #55
r mdmc Apr 19 #56
Like those things are even close to comparable. NT Patton French Apr 19 #57
I disagree mdmc Apr 20 #59
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