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niyad

(113,941 posts) Sat Apr 20, 2024, 09:34 AM Apr 20

Effects from the man who set himself on fire that nobody is talking about: [View all]

Yes, the man was clearly not well, and should have had the care and treatment he so desperately needed. But I am wondering how much further the system will fail us. How many of the witnesses to that horrific moment will experIence PTSD? How many will recognize it, and be able to seek help for it? How much more collateral damage will that man's untreated condition cause?

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Effects from the man who set himself on fire that nobody is talking about: [View all] niyad Apr 20 OP

Those are good points, we can't act as if individual violence doesn't affect us as a whole Walleye Apr 20 #1

Exactly. There are countless observations about how witnessing acts niyad Apr 20 #4

and how come cops couldnt get over a 4' barricade? mopinko Apr 20 #2

I wondered about that as well. niyad Apr 20 #3

What do you mean? They got there with the fire extinguisher in less than 2 minutes. The man was determined to mucifer Apr 20 #31

oh, ok. i had heard it took a bit. mopinko Apr 20 #34

well jcgoldie Apr 20 #36

Not to make light of it but they're NY cops PCIntern Apr 21 #42

A very good question you ask. Passages Apr 20 #5

well stated and et tu Apr 20 #7

Thank you. Passages Apr 20 #15

thank you for the citation nt et tu Apr 20 #26

Until enough of us care enough and voters demand it, nothing will change dlk Apr 20 #6

Not directly to your point, but since the immolation is the thread topic... LAS14 Apr 20 #8

Kitty Genovese? n/t area51 Apr 20 #9

Completely not as hyped, that NYC much-known/much-incorrectly incident. Igel Apr 20 #30

correct Skittles Apr 20 #33

What was the truth? Just a summary. nt LAS14 Apr 21 #47

someone was by her side almost immediately after the attack Skittles Apr 22 #50

Interesting! Thanks. LAS14 Apr 22 #56

Could we have a one sentence summary of what the truth was? nt LAS14 Apr 21 #46

Thanks! nt LAS14 Apr 21 #44

It was Kitty Genovese . . . SarcasticSatyr Apr 20 #10

Thank you for that most informative link. The man who raped,and murdered niyad Apr 20 #23

Maybe because his attorney changed his plea to not guilty by reason of insanity MorbidButterflyTat Apr 20 #28

Thanks! nt LAS14 Apr 21 #45

As the link will show, Aristus Apr 20 #12

There were numerous calls during that murder IbogaProject Apr 20 #19

Interesting note, as we are discussing her murder. Her partner at the niyad Apr 20 #24

Harlan Ellison was a social justice warrior MorbidButterflyTat Apr 20 #29

I know. I was a huge HE fan. Aristus Apr 20 #35

Very cool! MorbidButterflyTat Apr 21 #38

You have no doubt heard his story about someone who smarted off to him Aristus Apr 21 #41

Didn't he use an accelerant of some kind? markodochartaigh Apr 20 #13

Why make these comments if you don't know the details? Random Boomer Apr 20 #14

So I could give context to my question so the detail could be addressed. nt LAS14 Apr 21 #48

First responders are trained to act Sympthsical Apr 20 #21

Nice Points, but Clumsy Cat. DontBelieveEastisEas Apr 20 #25

It's not being "clumsy", it's mostly being intentional. yagotme Apr 21 #49

That amount of gasoline Melon Apr 22 #51

Except that story is false about Kitty obamanut2012 Apr 22 #53

I was definitely thinking of how people who witnessed this could be affected. electric_blue68 Apr 20 #11

That was always my issue with Dr. Kevorkian. LisaM Apr 22 #52

You know, thanks for pointing that out. I never thought of that. shrike3 Apr 22 #54

I saw his friends and neighbors' reactions... BigmanPigman Apr 20 #16

We ought to be talking about the substance of his Ponzi Papers as well -- TBF Apr 20 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 20 #18

lol - well you have to realize not all of us are capitalists TBF Apr 20 #20

If you have any links that don't violate the TOS of this site RandomNumbers Apr 20 #22

If you do a search for the Ponzi Papers TBF Apr 20 #32

Thanks, will do! (nt) RandomNumbers Apr 21 #40

That's some seriously kooky stuff. Patton French Apr 21 #43

Probably comments about cops being too fat and out of shape, MorbidButterflyTat Apr 20 #27

Perhaps this commentary is a little off the point, but B.See Apr 20 #37

This is the third self-immolation in this country in 6 months Iris Apr 21 #39

I did not know this. Thanks for bringing it up. shrike3 Apr 22 #55