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119. I am privledged

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Meme on AOC: Biden doesn't stand for all the values I do. But I would rather fight for those things in a landscape [View all] applegrove Apr 20 OP

Perfect. She's an amazing communicator. Scrivener7 Apr 20 #1

See post 90. Until I see actual real documentaion of that quote, I remain seriously unconvinced it is real. Celerity Apr 20 #99

See my reply 172 below. summer_in_TX Apr 21 #173

yes, if you look at multiple other posts I made, the 'quote' does NOT happen in any party of that entire 31 minutes Celerity Apr 21 #174

You have a point. summer_in_TX Apr 21 #192

It was posted originally as an exact quote, and the whole Celerity Apr 21 #194

I am privledged sabbat hunter Apr 20 #119

We are fortunate to have her. cilla4progress Apr 20 #157

Well said. More progressives need to see this. FlyingPiggy Apr 20 #2

Yes! More moderates need to see it too! Think. Again. Apr 20 #3

Moderates aren't the ones saying they're not going to vote for biden bc they want more progressive policies FlyingPiggy Apr 20 #7

They are not Democrats! Lunabell Apr 20 #10

Right.. I'm a Pres Biden Progressive. he gets Things DONE Cha Apr 20 #14

I was hoping for more. But it's better than Nina Turner's "half a bowl of shit" comment. Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #16

Exponentially Better.. the Polar Cha Apr 20 #20

I agree PatSeg Apr 20 #29

You are correct. That's exactly what it sounds like. Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #38

Ha, ha, ha! PatSeg Apr 20 #43

AOC actually did not say "Biden's values are not my values." summer_in_TX Apr 21 #196

We who already stand with Biden are not the audience of that remark. ramen Apr 20 #45

Perhaps PatSeg Apr 20 #48

Excellent. I feel like she's really grown into her role, and will be able to achieve great things. Hekate Apr 20 #4

When President Biden was still vice president markodochartaigh Apr 20 #5

Extremely well said! Thank You! Think. Again. Apr 20 #23

Who? sheshe2 Apr 20 #148

If Teh Oligarchs want a right-wing government, why did they support Biden? Doesn't make sense. betsuni Apr 20 #155

IKR?! sheshe2 Apr 20 #162

Evidently three "oligarchs" forced voters to choose Biden in the primary and if only betsuni Apr 21 #168

Okay. sheshe2 Apr 21 #171

"The Oiligarchs" markodochartaigh Apr 21 #167

"Without support from some oligarchs no candidate on a national scale can be successful" betsuni Apr 21 #179

What oligarchs supported Biden in 2019? betsuni Apr 20 #151

Bloomberg, Dimon, and Blankfein markodochartaigh Apr 20 #160

He's probably more in line with her values than she thinks. LisaM Apr 20 #6

Yep, I also think Progressive values are the core of Democratic party values.... Think. Again. Apr 20 #25

Exactly PatSeg Apr 20 #33

What she's saying is, intheflow Apr 21 #193

My comment was made before further comments PatSeg Apr 21 #197

Yes they are. Goals are same, not about values/morals but reality of legislature. betsuni Apr 20 #59

EXCELLENT AOC Quote! calimary Apr 20 #8

One thing you find about Democracy is that there is never a candidate that stands for everything you do. patphil Apr 20 #9

AOC has insulted Biden. deepblue Apr 20 #11

Yes. Thank you. You and I think alike. Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #17

I appreciate her attempt to find a bridge at this important time.... Think. Again. Apr 20 #27

Yes, a very poor choice of words PatSeg Apr 20 #35

AOC has not insulted Biden. She has not damned him with faint praise, either. What's happened, I think... Hekate Apr 20 #46

The pudding is not in compromising with other Democrats Ninga Apr 20 #109

That, too. Hekate Apr 20 #131

That 'quote' has zero documenation that it is real. See my multiple posts on this thread on the subject. Celerity Apr 20 #132

Just out of curiosity... sheshe2 Apr 20 #12

Exactly. What TF was that supposed to mean? Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #18

That wasn't really part of the question she was answering... Think. Again. Apr 20 #28

I don't think she succeeded in avoiding being divisive PatSeg Apr 20 #36

I disagree. Think. Again. Apr 20 #39

That happens PatSeg Apr 20 #44

Yep. Think. Again. Apr 20 #51

Okay then. sheshe2 Apr 21 #170

The quote is completely undocumented, and quite possibly invented by a person making a meme with Celerity Apr 21 #163

She has a different perspective than Joe. He could maybe say the same. twodogsbarking Apr 20 #13

I think Joe would say it more diplomatically PatSeg Apr 20 #37

Perhaps he would say something like * Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #47

Oh wow, yes! PatSeg Apr 20 #50

Well, that's better than nothing. I'll take it, I guess. Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #15

Oh I think she is trying to appeal to far lefties and applegrove Apr 20 #19

That's the word I was looking for PatSeg Apr 20 #40

+1 betsuni Apr 20 #70

That's the difference COL Mustard Apr 20 #21

The withdrawal from Afghanistan was more Trump's fault SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #30

I agree Biden got handed a soup sandwich COL Mustard Apr 20 #142

That still didn't make it Biden's fault. SocialDemocrat61 Apr 21 #189

applegrove............ Upthevibe Apr 20 #22

You're welcome. applegrove Apr 20 #24

Same Here! The_Zephyr Apr 20 #26

Too Many People... GB_RN Apr 20 #31

Those on the purity left SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #34

Hope That Moral Superiority Tastes Good... GB_RN Apr 20 #42

Funny thing that. ALL of the major big ticket items in Biden's agenda that were blocked were blocked by Celerity Apr 20 #80

I wasn't referring to progressive democrats in congress SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #86

ok, but that old purity test as an anti-progressive weapon and framing definitely has floated around here since I joined Celerity Apr 20 #91

Still not what I was referring to SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #94

I acknowledged that in my reply to you. I now know what you meant. Celerity Apr 20 #97

Great 👍 SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #100

all good! Celerity Apr 20 #101

Of course all the AOC haters are coming out of the woodwork SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #32

Fascinating to see the people who say the don't like aoc because she's a purist unblock Apr 20 #52

I call it AI Russian Chinese replies. They appear whenever someone's applegrove Apr 20 #56

Haters? sheshe2 Apr 20 #60

The lady doth protest too much, methinks SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #67

Excuse me? sheshe2 Apr 20 #72

No SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #73

Naturally. Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #75

Who's on first! SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #79

IKR?! sheshe2 Apr 20 #84

Why am I not surprised. sheshe2 Apr 20 #96

You do have the awareness that you posted a sexist remark, don't you? madaboutharry Apr 20 #104

It's hilarious. betsuni Apr 20 #88

This sums it up nicely. sheshe2 Apr 20 #103

The weaponization of the word "progressive" against the Democratic Party has done a lot betsuni Apr 21 #182

They are even allowed to make racist comments about 'the Squad' RandiFan1290 Apr 21 #185

Why do you like Nina Turner? betsuni Apr 21 #187

"The Woke Tan Clan" RandiFan1290 Apr 21 #188

Why do you like Nina Turner? betsuni Apr 21 #190

breathe duers et tu Apr 20 #41

Thank You!!! Think. Again. Apr 20 #110

I agree with her 100%. I don't always agree with Biden but nothing will keep me from Autumn Apr 20 #49

What values does AOC have that Biden does not? Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #54

She didn't go into that. Maybe she figures the fact that she supports him is enough. Autumn Apr 20 #61

You're the one who indicated you agreed with her. What exactly are you agreeing to? Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #64

I didn't indicate it. I fucking said it. I know what values I have that Joe doesn't share Autumn Apr 20 #66

Which values would those be? Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #71

None of your business what my values are, just I have no need to know about yours. nt Autumn Apr 20 #76

Don't let yourself be baited. Think. Again. Apr 20 #111

Not going to happen. I owe nobody any explanation. My friends and family know. Autumn Apr 20 #118

I'm interested in knowing this, too, but I guess it's none of our beeswax. betsuni Apr 20 #93

But... still supporting it 100%! Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #115

It all comes back to: If you can't make it about policy because there's only a difference in strategy betsuni Apr 21 #180

Yes, I remember that awful statement! What a rotten thing to say. Oopsie Daisy Apr 21 #181

No there wasn't, far as I know. Not some countries, ANY other country. betsuni Apr 21 #183

Can you li nk to the video or transcript you agree with? The Op video doesn't exist for me when tried to watch. MerryBlooms Apr 21 #166

No, the OP link now shows a meme but you can look at posts 90 and 108. Autumn Apr 21 #191

I think AOC has a bright future in our party. I agree with her. walkingman Apr 20 #53

It's amazing. AOC comes out in supoprt of Biden, and we have DUers criticizing her for it. Gore1FL Apr 20 #55

Nobody here is criticizing the actual "support" part of what she said. Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #57

But it wasn't an insult SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #58

Of course it was. She's saying that Joe Biden doesn't share her values. Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #62

No it wasn't SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #65

Nothing dishonest at all about it. She said what she said * Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #74

No It's not SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #77

It was a cheap shot, an insult, and unnecessary * Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #81

No it wasn't SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #87

Pretending that it wasn't ham-handed won't make it eloquent and thoughtful. Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #89

It wasn't SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #95

Insinuating that Biden lacks values is not supportive. Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #112

It doesn't in any way insinuate that Biden lacks values SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #120

The need to find fault with what she said is typical of the people who like to find fault with her Gore1FL Apr 20 #106

No nits are being picked. It's perfectly reasonable to expect elected officials to * Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #114

Get over it. Gore1FL Apr 20 #117

It is amazing SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #122

Yep. Goddessartist Apr 21 #200

And people defended Nina Turner's "half bowl of shit" statement about Biden * Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #123

I didn't mention Nina Turner. I am not accepting the new goal posts. Gore1FL Apr 20 #124

No need to run away. It's a perfectly valid comparison. Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #125

Not running. Simply not participating. Gore1FL Apr 20 #135

From this yellowdawg, liberal Democrat -- right on! ananda Apr 20 #63

I like AOC just fine. She knows her stuff and has grown. As to Biden, he has been wildly better than PatrickforB Apr 20 #68

Well said AOC!! Celerity Apr 20 #69

As supportive statements go, this one seems a bit ham handed to me. Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #78

No, it was great. nt Celerity Apr 20 #82

It was perfect. Well said. Great meme. Speaks to those applegrove Apr 20 #85

Huh? Are you saying that she's "code talking" to let people know she's anti-Israel? Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #92

No. I am saying some people have no tolerance for Israel in this war. applegrove Apr 20 #98

Let's hope that all Progressive Democrats are as smart as AOC & get out and vote for Biden. elocs Apr 20 #83

Where did she say the following quote you posted? Celerity Apr 20 #90

On top of the video is the meme I quoted. It is at the same link posted by applegrove Apr 20 #102

There is NO documentation info in that meme whatsoever. No time, date, or place she said it. Anyone could make it up. Celerity Apr 20 #105

Other than the meme SocialDemocrat61 Apr 20 #107

Unless the OP can provide documentation that proves that is not a fake quote, this OP should be taken down. Celerity Apr 20 #113

Someone named Pam Keith on twitter said it was from AOC. applegrove Apr 20 #108

yes, I already discussed that tweet in my last reply, and again, there is NO documentation in that tweet whatsoever Celerity Apr 20 #116

Personally, I think it's a good OP... Think. Again. Apr 20 #121

I thought it was a good meme too. We try our best. applegrove Apr 20 #127

Until proven otherwise it is a suspect and likely false quote. If she said policies, then zero controversies, BUT Celerity Apr 20 #129

As I mentioned, it is a good paraphrase of her stance if not a direct quote.... Think. Again. Apr 20 #138

It is not presented as a paraphrase, and also it uses loaded language (values) that incites division as it paints Celerity Apr 20 #139

Here is a quote from Jan. where AOC uses the word "landscape" applegrove Apr 20 #126

it doesn't help, a random word used in entirely different setting is not proof in the slightest that the quote is real Celerity Apr 21 #175

I just didn't want to put up the idea as a video alone. I wanted applegrove Apr 21 #176

I am an idea person as well. But I also adhere to factual groundings and documentation for claims. Celerity Apr 21 #177

Thank you for pursuing this, Celerity Just_Vote_Dem Apr 21 #184

Do not forget that intim the OP edited it, is was presented for hours as an exact quote. Celerity Apr 21 #195

Here is the full video blogslug Apr 20 #128

Yes, I watched the whole thing (as I have stated already) and the quote is NOT in it at all, she did not say those words Celerity Apr 20 #130

Well blogslug Apr 20 #133

I think they just got inspiration from her. Remember applegrove Apr 20 #134

The quote is very much unproven, and uses loaded language (the 'values' part) This thread is very divisive based off Celerity Apr 20 #137

I think it is great and speaks to something important: applegrove Apr 20 #140

I think it is pretty problematic to take an entirely undocumented meme and then present is as a quote, a quote Celerity Apr 20 #141

Well we donn't agree a narrative is the most important thing applegrove Apr 20 #144

That is very disturbing PatSeg Apr 20 #143

Does it go against DU terms of service? For sure we need to discuss and flush out how applegrove Apr 20 #145

that is not germane at all to my (fully documented at this point) issues with the OP Celerity Apr 20 #146

I think we are at the end of the discussion. The quote applegrove Apr 20 #149

you have yet to show the slightest proof the quote is real, plus you are glossing over the loaded language Celerity Apr 20 #150

It is a representation of what she said. We are not going applegrove Apr 20 #152

No it is not, and the onus to prove the quote (which has divisive wording) is real is on you. You made the OP, not me. Celerity Apr 20 #154

I put a note that the quote was representative. applegrove Apr 20 #158

If its a "representation" how is it a "quote" onenote Apr 20 #161

Okay. Will correct the quote. applegrove Apr 21 #165

Okay. You got me. I so didn't want to get rid of the idea in the "quote" applegrove Apr 21 #169

I really have no idea PatSeg Apr 20 #159

Thanks for your input. applegrove Apr 21 #164

I saw an excerpt a couple of days ago. summer_in_TX Apr 21 #172

Thanks. applegrove Apr 21 #178

No it is not. She never said anything about Biden not standing up for some of her values. It didn't happen. Celerity Apr 21 #201

Exactly the right attitude mvd Apr 20 #136

Exactly. Don't let 'perfect' be the enemy of progress. In It to Win It Apr 20 #147

Cornell West and RFK should be taking notes Blue Owl Apr 20 #153

Why? They hate Democrats. betsuni Apr 21 #186

Thank you, cilla4progress Apr 20 #156

That's my thinking, too. SYFROYH Apr 21 #198

Well said. Martin68 Apr 21 #199