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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/4/20/2236276/-Trump-Refused-To-Stand-For-Jury-And-Trump-Tried-To-Leave-Early-And-Was-Commanded-To-Sit-Back-Down

Trump Refused To Stand For Jury, And Trump Tried To Leave Early And Was Commanded To Sit Back Down.
Merlin196360
Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:13:09p EDT

Not sure that this made it into the MSM, but Trump displayed blatant disrespect for the entire court proceedings yesterday. And no, he didn’t do it on the court house steps or using Truth Social. No video or link yet, but Joyce Vance stated on MSNBC that Trump refused to stand when the jury entered and left the court room. Next, Trump fell asleep again, and it appears that Trump started to fart and stink the place up. Finally, Trump tried to leave before the judge was finished, and Trump was ordered to sit back down like a dog. We all knew this was going to be a white water river ride of childish petulance from Trump, and I think it will only get worse.

According to Joyce Vance, it is a sign of respect for all in the court room to stand when the jury is being seated and when they leave. A good lawyer will instruct his/her client to show respect to the jury, and the defendant will stand. Well, not this defendant. Trump stubbornly refused to stand for the jury. Vance says that the jury will notice this and take the disrespect into their jury deliberations.

It can be argued that a disrespectful defendant is still presumed innocent, but juries are made up of human beings. And being disrespectful to the jury will not endear Trump to those twelve jurors. It will color the deliberations.

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What does all this disrespect mean for the court proceedings? It’s the eternal question all of us have asked since we have watched Trump get special treatment from the courts. I predict that Trump will only be fined and warned on Tuesday during that hearing over his attacks on the court witnesses and jury members.

Do I think Trump needs thirty days in jail? YES! But the courts are loathe to do this because Trump “is a former president.”

Unfortunately for Judge Merchan, Trump will continue to attack witnesses, jury members, and others. Trump will also gesticulate and glare at the witnesses and jury, and he will mumble loudly enough to his lawyers. Will Trump say something out loud for all to hear? I wouldn’t discount it. Merchan will then have to make a decision on what do to with a defendant who has no respect for the law or the courts and has failed to heed warnings from the court.

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Trump Refused To Stand For Jury... [View all] babylonsister Apr 21 OP

He's trying to intimidate and/or upstage them and the judge underpants Apr 21 #1

Sometimes I wish this was being televised or recorded on video * Oopsie Daisy Apr 21 #2

..."that the non-reading and low-information voters..." You could have just said the entire universe of MAGATs. machoneman Apr 21 #5

There are loads of low information voters who aren't MAGA cultists. ShazzieB Apr 21 #67

His defiance and refusal to cooperate will only make them love him more. calimary Apr 21 #10

Yeah, it will endear him more to his cult, but that doesn't broaden his voter base Attilatheblond Apr 21 #29

Raise an army? TexasBushwhacker Apr 21 #40

Just like Jesus and Mandela... 😂🤣 Oopsie Daisy Apr 21 #33

I really think that if the judge gave him 2 hours in a holding cell fork contempt it would Maraya1969 Apr 21 #66

The new juror number 2 John Farmer Apr 21 #12

This sort of critique of jurors is not helpful. Should not be drawing criticism to them. Srkdqltr Apr 21 #19

Well, that's not good, if the reporting is accurate. Oopsie Daisy Apr 21 #23

To clarify ...Juror 2 follows X and see's Truth Social Posts by Michael Cohen.... chowder66 Apr 21 #48

Good point PatSeg Apr 21 #27

Need a 'courtroom nanny cam' secreted in there where El Stinko doesn't see? Attilatheblond Apr 21 #31

Ha, ha! PatSeg Apr 21 #35

I suspect he is purposely trying to agitate to create a situtation that will force a mistrial. honest.abe Apr 21 #3

That was my thought as well DFW Apr 21 #26

Can you imagine bamagal62 Apr 21 #4

Donald...please, please take the stand and testify on your own behalf. sop Apr 21 #6

This will be the 'interesting' times mentioned in the curse... MiHale Apr 21 #7

Well... 2naSalit Apr 21 #18

"Spontaneous combustion"? PatSeg Apr 21 #30

I've been anticipating... 2naSalit Apr 21 #41

You've given me a new scenario to hope for! PatSeg Apr 21 #44

Let's see... birdographer Apr 21 #58

Are sparklers allowed in court? Hypothetically, of course. Hermit-The-Prog Apr 21 #60

Oh my god! PatSeg Apr 21 #64

And that pile of tinder on top of his head! n/t catchnrelease Apr 21 #69

The most reasonable response the judge can make to quell his "under the breath" outbursts.... 3Hotdogs Apr 21 #8

Agreed birdographer Apr 21 #59

I don't think he would be shown to the jury. 3Hotdogs Apr 21 #62

As a former jurist, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 21 #9

Your post is a bit confusing PJMcK Apr 21 #13

Oops, wrong word. Not a jurist, merely a peer on a jury. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 21 #16

30 days in jail for not standing? TwilightZone Apr 21 #11

It was obvious to most of us that the author of the piece meant 30 niyad Apr 21 #15

The 'meat' of the trial has not even begun. nt Prairie_Seagull Apr 21 #14

Past is Prologue bmichaelh Apr 21 #17

Never see inside of a jail...BUT... SayItLoud Apr 21 #20

He would remove the ankle monitor and have a thousand wnylib Apr 21 #53

What an infantile, petulant freak. Scrivener7 Apr 21 #21

So it will be upon this lone judge to do what the entire legal system has failed to to do: jaxexpat Apr 21 #22

Disrespect the people deciding your fate, a bold strategy. CaptainTruth Apr 21 #24

No brilliant chess move here from Slobby, he is 'better' than everyone NoMoreRepugs Apr 21 #25

He has a half way step... he can order him to a confrrence room.... getagrip_already Apr 21 #28

I'd rather have the jury witness his petulant behavior. Maybe it can be a daily thing. Each day he returns to court and keopeli Apr 21 #32

That's the way I would see it working out, if it gets really bad. Buns_of_Fire Apr 21 #34

Actually it is.... getagrip_already Apr 21 #37

You're right. He never learned to pick his moments to act like a grown-up. nt Buns_of_Fire Apr 21 #42

Is this another "I Double-Dare ya" moment for MAGAmouth? Ping Tung Apr 21 #36

Farting is so Christlike. dchill Apr 21 #38

Sleep farts lol padah513 Apr 22 #70

True, jury's are made up of humans, however yobrault1 Apr 21 #39

TFG is trying to piss off the jury LetMyPeopleVote Apr 21 #43

Disrespecting the jury isn't merely rude. It's legitimate, damning testimony against himself. gulliver Apr 21 #45

KnR Hekate Apr 21 #46

He hates this. moondust Apr 21 #47

It occurs to me that insulting a jury, if you are the defendant, MineralMan Apr 21 #49

he is a clueless doddering fool who lives at the center... mike_c Apr 21 #50

If the lazy fat fuck can't get off his fat ass Blue Owl Apr 21 #51

Thanks for the article. Like I said in another thread B.See Apr 21 #52

He's a scofflaw. kentuck Apr 21 #54

Why should he? Nutjob thinks he's a king. Kid Berwyn Apr 21 #55

Each time the Judge has to correct Trump, the jury will note this. --as long as they feel riversedge Apr 21 #56

As much as I would like to see Don Poorleone in the slammer for 30 days, I don't want to see the trial delayed that long flashman13 Apr 21 #57

He farted ???? REALLY ????? Trueblue1968 Apr 21 #61

That's just dumb. The jury will notice. TomSlick Apr 21 #63

But the courts are loathe to do this because Trump "is a former president." soldierant Apr 21 #65

In another thread, I wrote that it's a very poor tactic to piss off your judge Wednesdays Apr 21 #68