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mike_c

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4. until service workers are paid a living wage they must be tipped...

Sun Apr 21, 2024, 07:19 PM

Apr 21

...and their employers get away with paying starvation wages. Tipping isn't the problem. Scumbag employers are the problem. All work should pay a living wage.

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Tipping Is Out of Control. It's Also a Serious Labor Issue [View all] Jilly_in_VA Apr 21 OP

Card readers default to tips. When my husband was in the hospital, the cafeteria employees were constantly turning LeftInTX Apr 21 #1

i was in a local department store and the box u slide the card into wanted to know how much tip AllaN01Bear Apr 21 #20

I made more at $2.13/hr and taking tips than all but two of my other jobs. I averaged $25+/hr with tips twenty ... marble falls Apr 21 #2

Should just put on a mandatory 18% service fee madville Apr 21 #3

If you are going to add a 18% service charge, why not just raise menu prices 18% and eliminate all tipping ? MichMan Apr 21 #7

Making it a separate fee madville Apr 21 #10

Because tipping enables tax evasion. meadowlander Apr 21 #13

Those damn minimum wage Tickle Apr 21 #27

Nope. That makes the problem worse. Ms. Toad Apr 21 #14

The customer pays all the wages either way madville Apr 21 #17

The customer buys a good or service. Ms. Toad Apr 21 #19

Why not just pay them $20+/hr. and raise the cost of the service? ... aggiesal Apr 21 #22

I agree JustAnotherGen Apr 21 #31

until service workers are paid a living wage they must be tipped... mike_c Apr 21 #4

Depending on where you are servers EllieBC Apr 21 #8

+ : Herman Cain, Natl Restaurant Assn (the other NRA) lobbied for $2.13 in 1996: appalachiablue Apr 21 #29

Time to sunset the Inkey Apr 22 #41

I thought Herman Cain won his greatest award in July, 2020. Wednesdays Apr 22 #53

I hear you, Cain was a real character. I knew he died of Covid appalachiablue Apr 22 #59

What bothers me most is tips for counter service, performed by people who make minimum or better Silent3 Apr 21 #5

I give generously at restaurants. jimfields33 Apr 21 #6

No matter where I eat, 20% tip in cash. ProudMNDemocrat Apr 21 #9

I hate when I do take out and they ask for a tip. kimbutgar Apr 21 #11

if i get take out from a sit down restaurant, i tip 10% on the assumption mopinko Apr 21 #15

This! AKwannabe Apr 22 #56

we did the room service. it took away from our customers. mopinko Apr 22 #57

Yeah, if they reach into a warmer or onto a rack and then place the food on the counter Xavier Breath Apr 21 #18

I absolutely agree! ShazzieB Apr 21 #26

Yes exactly ! kimbutgar Apr 21 #33

Agreed Bayard Apr 21 #34

Yeah that's the worst. You did the ordering EllieBC Apr 22 #46

The tipping system is patently unfair. MichMan Apr 21 #12

pretty much how it works. mopinko Apr 21 #16

You're referencing male customers only, whathehell Apr 21 #32

no, but i bet they still tip cute, flirty guys more. mopinko Apr 21 #39

The few Americans I know who worked as 'bussers' all got quite healthy tip-outs from each server they were assigned to Celerity Apr 21 #37

I got $1. Once... MichMan Apr 22 #52

Sounds like you picked the wrong resto to toil in m8 Celerity Apr 22 #61

Am I given the same latitude to tell servers that don't earn much in tips the same message? MichMan Apr 22 #63

Fine by me. I am sure there are thousands of horrid restos to work in. Plus they should not be reliant on tips, they Celerity Apr 22 #64

I consider myself a pretty generous tipper, rsdsharp Apr 21 #38

I got tipped out as a busboy every restaurant I worked at Johnny2X2X Apr 22 #43

I got $1; once MichMan Apr 22 #49

We tipped our busboys out Jilly_in_VA Apr 22 #65

Agree. Mosby Apr 22 #45

Some of his customers gave $100 tip, some gave $0 IronLionZion Apr 22 #48

How happy would he be if he was paid $25 per hour with no tipping? MichMan Apr 22 #50

I always made sure my busboys Lifeafter70 Apr 22 #58

Sub-minimum wage plus tips is also racist Tansy_Gold Apr 21 #21

Then people conflate that with the ipad prompts for shops that pay much higher wages IronLionZion Apr 21 #23

Employers use tips NOT to increase wages because tippers do it for them. live love laugh Apr 21 #24

ever since credit cards became a thing, more tips go through the company. mopinko Apr 21 #40

bunch of cheapskates edisdead Apr 21 #25

I used to ForgedCrank Apr 21 #28

Texas isn't paying servers that much TexasDem69 Apr 21 #36

The tipped wage is much lower than minimum wage IronLionZion Apr 22 #42

That depends on where you are. EllieBC Apr 22 #44

Very good for those states. It needs to be standard everywhere IronLionZion Apr 22 #47

The only people who truly benefit from this custom are those at the top. elleng Apr 21 #30

See post #45 MichMan Apr 22 #51

We always try to tip about 25% of the bill when we eat out TexasDem69 Apr 21 #35

It is a serious problem. California has a solution and so do unions. peacebuzzard Apr 22 #54

This is horseshit! AKwannabe Apr 22 #55

The sub-minimum wage is out of control. There's nothing wrong with tipping. Iggo Apr 22 #60

I always tip using cash. I don't want the employer Emile Apr 22 #62

"It's so small businesses can survive!" Oneironaut Apr 22 #66