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MaryMagdaline

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23. It's a tough case but not as tough as the Edwards case.

Mon Apr 22, 2024, 04:23 PM

Apr 22

Edwards’ donation was made before there was a campaign and he did not make the payment himself or designate it as a business right-off. There was no paper trail with his signature. “Friends” made the donation. Edwards testified that his intent was to hide an affair from his wife. Don’t know but it’s quite possible that jury in NC was instructed that if there is a legal purpose vs an illegal purpose, the state must prove that the intent/purpose was NOT the legal one.

The jury instructions will be interesting, and as always, determinative of guilt or non-guilt if we have an honest jury.

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So, I just read through both the prosecution, and the defense opening statement details. [View all] Quixote1818 Apr 22 OP

According to what I've read... it's a novel prosecution theory. WarGamer Apr 22 #1

It's election fraud because the money was not reported to the FEC Bernardo de La Paz Apr 22 #3

I don't think the issue is failure to report. onenote Apr 22 #10

Good analysis. I think you are more correct than I am. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 22 #14

Remind me, though intrepidity Apr 22 #15

And Cohen happy feet Apr 22 #30

And Cohen happy feet Apr 22 #35

Yup and cohen will vouch for the prosecution onetexan Apr 22 #12

Yes #10 is more acccurate. WarGamer Apr 22 #18

Nothing novel about it IMO Johnny2X2X Apr 22 #8

Ya better let the BBC and NYT know... they both used that verbiage. WarGamer Apr 22 #20

Yeah, I realize that's the bullshit narrative been going around since this broke Johnny2X2X Apr 22 #22

Please keeep in mind. WarGamer Apr 22 #24

Technically it is Tax Fraud as well Mr.WeRP Apr 22 #19

No, it wasn't written off as a tax deduction. That was reported earlier today. WarGamer Apr 22 #21

I see nowhere that Bragg has dropped this Mr.WeRP Apr 22 #25

I haven't seen the transcript yet... for opening statements WarGamer Apr 22 #26

Opening statements don't have to walk through everything Mr.WeRP Apr 22 #27

Didn't Michael Cohen tape some of the conversations where Trump directed him to pay her off? appleannie1 Apr 22 #2

yes Cohen made tapes InstantGratification Apr 22 #5

Kind of ironically Diraven Apr 22 #11

No doubt that thought tortures the cheapskate intrepidity Apr 22 #16

re: "Trump stiffed him for the 150 grand" thesquanderer Apr 22 #13

Maddow was in the courtroom for NBC. She reported wnylib Apr 22 #36

yes WhiteTara Apr 22 #6

Only screwed if all twelve jurors agree to convict. erronis Apr 22 #4

Yeah and juror 2 gets all news from Truth Social and X? GoodRaisin Apr 22 #7

There are at least two diehard magats on that jury. nt intrepidity Apr 22 #17

A number of jurors say they read/watch right wing news-- CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WP, and Silent Type Apr 22 #29

It might turn out that way EndlessWire Apr 23 #42

If Trump wins this case, then pols can used campaign funds for all sorts of nefarious purposes. Yavin4 Apr 22 #9

It's a tough case but not as tough as the Edwards case. MaryMagdaline Apr 22 #23

Per various talking heads, the fact that Trump asked Cohen spooky3 Apr 22 #31

Excellent point! I forgot all about that MaryMagdaline Apr 22 #38

Looks like his legal team has just given up Warpy Apr 22 #28

He keeps speaking to the press pfitz59 Apr 22 #32

If the press really wants a ratings event, they could wnylib Apr 22 #37

Didn't the defense say Trump does not know Stormy? Irish_Dem Apr 22 #33

Will Stormy provide physical description of body parts not known? LiberalFighter Apr 23 #40

Jebus, I was eating my lunch. Irish_Dem Apr 23 #41

Trump team is not smart RANDYWILDMAN Apr 22 #34

Thanks. I didn't want to read and own all that. lindysalsagal Apr 22 #39

Amy conspiracy is a just group of friends/associates making a plan dlk Apr 23 #43

You know if a Democratic ex president did the same thing they'd be prosecuted and spent time in jail by now. kimbutgar Apr 23 #44