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orangecrush

(19,655 posts)
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 03:40 PM Apr 24

My last post on Israel/Palestine [View all]

My oversimplified take on things.

Iran, Hamas and Putin orchestrated a horrific, despicable attack on Israel.

This helped Putin by diverting attention from Ukraine.

As they were counting on, Netanyahu was totally unprepared, and to cover his ass launched a genocidal attack on Gaza.

This helped Putin, Iran and Hamas by making the U.S. (Biden) look like monsters for supporting Israel, and took the focus off of Putin's genocide in Ukraine.

This has further caused a rift in the Democratic party, as can be seen in the posts here, which helps Putin by helping Trump.

I find the simultaneous outbreak of campus protest with the passage of an aid bill highly suspect, as I do the media amplification of same.

The whole thing smells of FSB and Russian geopolitics from start to present, and I'm not pointing a finger at the Israeli or Palestinian victims, but at Putin, Hamas who obviously doesn't give two shits about Gaza, and Netanyahu who would sell his mother to stay out of prison and in power.

Oh, and the media spin on the whole ugly scenario.

Biden is not going to stop support for Israel. He is doing everything he can to rein in Netanyahu, and stop the slaughter on both sides. I believe that without reservation.

If you have a dog in this fight, I suggest you decide who you hate worse - each other, or Donald Fucking Trump, think about how his victory will affect your cause, and direct your energies toward his defeat.



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My last post on Israel/Palestine [View all] orangecrush Apr 24 OP
"..... doing everything he can" ? Tetrachloride Apr 24 #1
Yes. orangecrush Apr 24 #5
of course Tetrachloride Apr 24 #7
I disagree. Big Blue Marble Apr 24 #8
I mostly agree. I think Biden is also being influenced by our military-industrial players Earth-shine Apr 24 #9
"Can't stop rivers. They always reach the sea" Dave Bowman Apr 24 #19
Even if issue for Biden is the mil-industrial complex...we can buy the weapons and just hold them. dutch777 Apr 24 #31
Perhaps you never heard President Eisenhower's warning about the military-industrial complex. Earth-shine Apr 24 #34
Simplistic expectations... GiqueCee Apr 24 #16
I suspect netanyahu wasn't totally... Think. Again. Apr 24 #2
I agree TexasBushwhacker Apr 24 #10
I agree orangecrush Apr 24 #27
Agreed Cirroc Apr 24 #3
I've thought it was a Russian plan since Oct 7, all applegrove Apr 24 #4
And I expect more of the same orangecrush Apr 24 #6
Same here. I get that not everyone is tuned in or knows the history RandomNumbers Apr 24 #30
Yes it absolutely does smell like Putin, especially with the student groups TBF Apr 24 #11
One extra piece... Hope22 Apr 24 #12
Abswer orangecrush Apr 24 #26
Excellent explanation. sheshe2 Apr 24 #28
Not "genocidal". Words have meanings. AnrothElf Apr 24 #13
Correct. PCIntern Apr 24 #22
Thank you. We need to hear that. bluescribbler Apr 24 #14
Of course orangecrush Apr 24 #25
Sounds about right to me. ananda Apr 24 #15
My take is similar LymphocyteLover Apr 24 #17
Israel knew Hamas' attack plan more than a year before it happened. Sky Jewels Apr 24 #18
K & R You blue-wave Apr 24 #20
Thank you orangecrush Apr 24 #24
Amen Joinfortmill Apr 24 #21
I disagree on how "prepared" Netanyahu was. He seems to have had long term plans ready for such an occurrence. Ford_Prefect Apr 24 #23
A good post. We have had times in history when our Democracy was threatened walkingman Apr 24 #29
Agree orangecrush Apr 24 #37
There are many who fall for Hamas propaganda, and who eagerly repeat Russian propaganda. Oopsie Daisy Apr 24 #32
And the media bamagal62 Apr 24 #33
Well Done, orangecrush! Good Analysis.. And I believe.. Cha Apr 24 #35
Thank you, Cha orangecrush Apr 24 #36
The Israeli response has nothing to do with the charges against Netanyahu. former9thward Apr 24 #38
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