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Sympthsical

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25. Because too many people who use the word

Reply to Silent3 (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 24, 2024, 07:09 PM

Apr 24

Are reaching for it as a substitute for the words that really want to use towards Jews but cannot in polite society.

Note, I didn't say all the people who use anti-Zionist. But it's an awfully, awfully big chunk. Note how Zionist is used as a shorthand for any Jew - particularly American Jews - who may not have even stated any public position about Gaza and Israel.

The telling is in the use.

And a lot of people tell on themselves.

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Is "Zionism" a word corrupted by the way many people use it? I don't hear proud declarations, "I'm a Zionist!" [View all] Silent3 Apr 24 OP

Anti-Zionism is antisemitism. nt LexVegas Apr 24 #1

I disagree with that claim of a complete overlap. n/t Silent3 Apr 24 #2

I think most posters use Zionism as the "right for Israel to exist" so to be "anti-" would imply the latter. hlthe2b Apr 24 #3

Can you explain why instead of just saying that you disagree? wnylib Apr 24 #20

For a simple start, the two words have different definitions Silent3 Apr 24 #23

A question RedArkGuy Apr 24 #6

So being against Jewish Nationalism.... TheRealNorth Apr 24 #16

I read several declarations right here on DU. n/t Marcus IM Apr 24 #4

I don't doubt you, but I haven't run into that myself... Silent3 Apr 24 #8

I agree. Not that common in general. Marcus IM Apr 24 #9

The use of it in the context you mention is a "tell". BannonsLiver Apr 24 #5

My question then is what makes it so hard for many people to use Zionism in a positive, embracing context? Silent3 Apr 24 #10

Because too many people who use the word Sympthsical Apr 24 #25

Patriotism is the passion of fools and the most foolish of passions. Arthur Schopenhauer Ping Tung Apr 24 #7

I've always liked that Paine quote. Marcus IM Apr 24 #11

I think there is such a thing as a positive form of patriotism... Silent3 Apr 24 #13

It seems to me that Zionist has come to mean yorkster Apr 24 #12

Yes, the whole idea of "Okay, we'll deal with Netanyahu when this is over" is terrible... Silent3 Apr 24 #14

Zionism is the desire for a Jewish homeland ripcord Apr 24 #15

The real question is.... TheRealNorth Apr 24 #19

Then they are defining it wrong ripcord Apr 24 #21

The same as what happened to the word "liberal ". marybourg Apr 24 #17

Here's a well known Jewish Women's organization marybourg Apr 24 #18

Just a general statement: ForgedCrank Apr 24 #22

It is not being used as often because it has been rendered meaningless Beastly Boy Apr 24 #24