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LeftInTX

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22. I felt the guy that got banned from Columbia was using it in place of "white people".

Sat Apr 27, 2024, 02:01 AM

Apr 27

However, when white people use it, they are referring to Israel, the media, corporate elites and Jews.

The word Zion is interesting: It rhymes with "lion" (which means strength), but with the Z it sounds even more powerful. Therefore it can be used as a slur against people that are perceived to be powerful. Instead of "those white people are ruining everything", maybe "those Zionists are ruining everything" just sounds flashier?

And in this context, it is also combined with a slur another groups of powerful people: cops
https://www.jns.org/activists-call-jews-zionist-pigs-at-berkeley-council-meeting/

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Are protesters using the term Zionist in place of Jew in an effort not to sound anti-semitic? [View all] ripcord Apr 26 OP

That's a fair assessment, imo. elleng Apr 26 #1

Ay yay yay Prairie Gates Apr 26 #2

Maybe, maybe not. Eko Apr 26 #3

That is a fair point that they might know the person ripcord Apr 26 #5

Or they could just be anti-semitic assholes. Eko Apr 26 #6

I thought I read that the person was identified by a piece of jewelry ripcord Apr 26 #7

It was a Magen David Mossfern Apr 26 #8

If so then the person would prob be anti-Semitic. Eko Apr 26 #10

It was from an article I posted the other day Mossfern Apr 26 #11

Thanks Eko Apr 26 #13

Here it is Mossfern Apr 26 #14

The person who said that is Jessica Schwalb. Eko Apr 26 #15

Schwalb is right, the creepy "chanting like automatons" at a few other students to repel them is freaky. betsuni Apr 27 #17

So you are assuming that she was lying when she said that the only ID was a Magen David? Mossfern Apr 27 #25

No, I am assuming that they knew who she was. Eko Apr 27 #44

I had not heard that. Eko Apr 26 #9

Both sides are mischaracterizing the other to gain political favor. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 26 #4

Anti-Zionism is antisemitism. nt LexVegas Apr 26 #12

Not all Jews are Zionists Shermanator Apr 27 #16

If you believe Israel has a right to exist, I hate to break it you, you're a Zionist. tritsofme Apr 27 #18

Wrong. elleng Apr 27 #21

Usually when someone says "wrong" Mossfern Apr 27 #26

Or they just wander around like they have the fucking moral goddamn high ground telling people how "wrong" they are. SoFlaBro Apr 27 #39

Not wrong ripcord Apr 27 #36

Nope, let me clarify. What I said is 100% correct. If you think Israel has a right to exist, you are a Zionist. Period. tritsofme Apr 27 #46

Yes, you are wrong! sir pball Apr 28 #48

Yes. betsuni Apr 27 #19

Absolutely sarisataka Apr 27 #20

I felt the guy that got banned from Columbia was using it in place of "white people". LeftInTX Apr 27 #22

Atlantic article, group LionLez: "White Jewish people are today and always have been oppressors of all brown people." betsuni Apr 27 #24

I'm very much a layperson when it comes to this, but... W_HAMILTON Apr 27 #23

I'm confused: are these antisemite? marble falls Apr 27 #27

You're using a small extremist sect Mossfern Apr 27 #29

And you broad brush paint all antizionists as antisemites. Now then: are antizionist Jews antisemetic? ... marble falls Apr 27 #30

Did I say that? Mossfern Apr 27 #31

I don't know. Mossfern Apr 27 #32

There are people that dig up pictures of black people waving the stars and bars... LexVegas Apr 27 #37

False equivalency... Mossfern Apr 27 #38

Anti-Zionism is antisemitism. nt LexVegas Apr 27 #41

About as relevant as Michael the Black Man at Trump rallies NickB79 Apr 27 #45

read what they think should happen to Goyim before you cheer them MistakenLamb Apr 28 #50

They had specially polarized glasses made just for that purpose DFW Apr 27 #28

Hardline Likudnik might be more accurate than Zionist. sop Apr 27 #33

So how many "Hardline Likudniks" are undergrads at Colombia? comradebillyboy Apr 27 #34

Not many I would guess. sop Apr 27 #35

Yes ismnotwasm Apr 27 #40

No RandiFan1290 Apr 27 #42

"Zionist" appears to be akin to "antifa" mcar Apr 27 #43

The term "Zionism", "Zionist" etc was banned by our local university's protest. LeftInTX Apr 28 #47

the person allegedly had a magen David necklace that's their identifier MistakenLamb Apr 28 #49

Yes. Zionism is support for the existence of the Jewish State of Israel. It is NOT against a two state solution, JohnSJ Apr 28 #51