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Crunchy Frog

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50. I don't have a homeland either. I'm American by birth, but I'm completely fucked if Trump takes back the presidency.

Reply to LeftInTX (Reply #48)

Wed May 1, 2024, 06:11 PM

May 1

Since I'm a liberal and an atheist, and for many, that makes me "not a real American", and subject to God knows what under a Trump presidency.

I'm of mostly western and northern European ancestry, but mixed enough that I couldn't point to a single country as my "homeland". Realistically there's not a chance that I could ever emigrate to a European country.

Ukrainians, like Armenians, have only had a homeland since 1991, and may be on the verge of losing it once again. Israel has an advanced military and nuclear weapons, and seemingly unlimited support from the US. Ukrainians and Armenians have none of those. I don't see why their needs should matter less than those of Jews or Palestinians.

Still wondering if I count as part of the "Enlarged Jewish population".

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Question: is it possible to be concerned about Palestinian civilians without being accused of being anti-Semitic? [View all] surfered May 1 OP

It is very possible sarisataka May 1 #1

I was chastised by saying "The Israeli Military" viva la May 1 #56

Of course, but too many are pro hamas as opposed to pro palestinian getagrip_already May 1 #2

Only 29% of Israelis support a two state solution. rgbecker May 1 #24

Ahh, but im neither israeli, jewish, or palestinian... getagrip_already May 1 #25

Wow, SweetT May 1 #46

I think the poster was making a point, not threatening. AloeVera May 1 #51

Seriously? triron May 2 #91

Well, yes. AloeVera May 2 #92

I just reread this based on other comments getagrip_already May 2 #61

Yes Raven123 May 1 #3

Because we are funding the bombing.... TheRealNorth May 1 #14

Some of us contribute to aid other parts of the world Raven123 May 1 #17

Okay atreides1 May 2 #78

hmm... and how many Republicans spoke about it? B.See May 1 #45

Recently I've been posting more here on Gaza and Palestinians, even though my biggest concern is Ukraine. Crunchy Frog May 1 #20

Good point Raven123 May 1 #21

I post way more about Ukraine on Xitter, which is full of pro-russian trolls and bots, Crunchy Frog May 1 #37

Because of this: LeftInTX May 1 #43

Would I be considered part of the "Enlarged Jewish population"? Crunchy Frog May 1 #47

There are people who support Israel. Not having a homeland kinda sucks. LeftInTX May 1 #48

I don't have a homeland either. I'm American by birth, but I'm completely fucked if Trump takes back the presidency. Crunchy Frog May 1 #50

I don't think that you would be considered Mossfern May 2 #65

I may be misunderstanding Mossfern May 2 #62

No I wasn't. I think I was trying to explain why you might see more people posting about the war in Gaza Crunchy Frog May 2 #74

Some of us have gotten hides for speaking up for the innocent. One of them being a 3 word comment. onecaliberal May 2 #81

Because the discussion is about Gaza? Think. Again. May 1 #33

Be for peace Bad Thoughts May 1 #4

!! elias7 May 1 #22

You are right, the photos of bombed cities look exactly like each other. Biophilic May 1 #5

Perhaps those pro-Ukraine protests would have manifested if Russia were behind some of the messaging. Chakaconcarne May 1 #7

Not exactly alike getagrip_already May 1 #26

At least in places like Bakhmut, they were able to evacuate almost all the civilians. Crunchy Frog May 1 #39

Ukraine has been bombed for more than a year. viva la May 1 #59

Ukraine has been at war since 2014 getagrip_already May 2 #63

Or by the US in WWII Happy Hoosier May 1 #6

Of course. Just avoid saying anti-semitic things and harassing Jews who have nothing to do with Bibi. emulatorloo May 1 #8

Of course, if one looks at the slaughter and starvation of children for seven months. Big Blue Marble May 1 #9

Is it possible not to support the protesters ripcord May 1 #10

Good question, sarisataka May 1 #11

Apparently not. n/t Coventina May 1 #49

Of course MustLoveBeagles May 2 #67

Of course it's possible. BlueTsunami2018 May 1 #12

It's rather common for both sides of protests to be funded by the same outside parties, as a strategy to divide lostnfound May 1 #16

Well said, thank you. Think. Again. May 1 #34

Of course. maxsolomon May 1 #13

No, it appears the answer to that question is no. lostnfound May 1 #15

It's not anti-Semitic to be opposed to violence. lees1975 May 1 #18

As long as you say that everything is the fault of Hamas, and the IDF is as pure as driven snow. Crunchy Frog May 1 #19

See? Mossfern May 2 #66

Seriously? there was an OP yesterday accusing people of it obamanut2012 May 2 #71

It was intended as a simple observation of what I've actually seen on this board. Crunchy Frog May 2 #77

Agreed! Mossfern May 2 #79

I don't think America is evil, but we certainly have some evil people here, and we've definitely done some evil shit Crunchy Frog May 2 #83

Smotrich is a piece of shit Mossfern May 2 #85

I'm not claiming that I have the answers to what seems like an intractible situation. Crunchy Frog May 2 #86

0f course it's possible. Elessar Zappa May 1 #23

Israeli, Palestinian, Jew, Muslim, Russians, Ukrainians, take your pick. Ping Tung May 1 #27

While I would like to believe that too; it simply is not true. Big Blue Marble May 5 #102

Sinwar and Smotrich and in very different power positions. CincyDem May 5 #107

Many if not most American Jews and a large percentage of Israelis are mad at Bibi LetMyPeopleVote May 1 #28

This post deserves its own thead MustLoveBeagles May 2 #69

I started a thread for this post LetMyPeopleVote May 4 #95

Not by many claudette May 1 #29

Concern is one thing... PeaceWave May 1 #30

But not claudette May 1 #31

There's also increased understanding of, and support for, Palestinian people. Duncan Grant May 1 #38

What you said is patently not true obamanut2012 May 2 #70

+1, This constant conflation on DU sounds like it's against TOS uponit7771 May 2 #88

It has been going on nonstop since October 7th. Celerity May 5 #100

Please do link to ONE post on DU where ANYONE here EVER said Israel has no right to exist. Scrivener7 May 5 #105

It depends on how you do it.. Doesn't it? Cha May 1 #32

Of course it is. But calling for Israel to further tolerate a Hamas-controlled Gaza.... Happy Hoosier May 1 #35

No.... Think. Again. May 1 #36

Wait a second Mossfern May 2 #75

Calling out posters for being anti-semitic... Think. Again. May 2 #82

Yes. You can be pro Gaza and anti Hamas. ananda May 1 #40

Only if you're advocating destroying Hamas to free Gaza FBaggins May 1 #57

Absolutely, hard to pick which I hate more: Hamas,.or Likuud and Bibi JCMach1 May 1 #41

I'm pro Isreal but anti Netanyahu and very anti... lame54 May 1 #42

Thanks for the comments. surfered May 1 #44

Sure! It's the IDF's position FBaggins May 1 #52

What is the IDF position? obamanut2012 May 2 #72

Concern about Palestinian civilians FBaggins May 2 #87

Support peace for both sides. A ceasefire alone is pro-Hamas. They promise to kill more Jews. keithbvadu2 May 1 #53

Yes! Lunabell May 1 #54

Accusing a poster of being antisemitic is against the rules at DU Mosby May 1 #55

It depends. After observing for the past few months, I think that ecstatic May 1 #58

That helped. Thank you. surfered May 1 #60

Not off topic at all. Great post. Scrivener7 May 5 #104

Apparently not malaise May 2 #64

I've learned several months ago newdayneeded May 2 #68

You do realize the irony of your post...? sarisataka May 2 #73

Sure, but these kids proclaiming that they are Hamas is not the way. DemMedic May 2 #76

NO. You're not to care for INNOCENT women and children around here. onecaliberal May 2 #80

Is everyone engaging in this debate doing it in good faith and looking for solutions? No. meadowlander May 2 #84

I hope all these responses answered your question... dchill May 2 #89

I'm so confused... surfered May 2 #90

Frankly, me too. dchill May 2 #93

Why Trump's hardline position on U.S. policy in Gaza matters LetMyPeopleVote May 3 #94

Thank You!! Cha May 4 #96

If TFG is re-elected, he will ban people with the "wrong" religion from coming to the US LetMyPeopleVote May 4 #97

There is a potential cease fire deal that Bibi may sabotage and the protestors are our in force LetMyPeopleVote May 4 #98

Israelis are protesting for Ceasefire, the return of their loved ones and for Netanyahu to step down. LetMyPeopleVote May 5 #99

Not here. Celerity May 5 #101

Not here. Some of the ones in this very thread who are assuring you it's possible Scrivener7 May 5 #103

I moved from England to marry a Jew in America. My wife won't criticise Israel, but Doodley May 5 #106