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billh58

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11. The first part of your post is true, but
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 03:33 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Mon Feb 3, 2014, 09:10 PM - Edit history (1)

"Until we start treating gun ownership as a privilege that can be taken away instead of a right that people will abuse just because they can, we're just sitting ducks." is the wedge issue that prevents reasonable gun owners from voting for gun control measures.

Gun ownership is a Constitutional Right, and only becomes a "privilege" when that Right is abused or the owner becomes a danger to him or herself, or others.

Like all enumerated Constitutional Rights, the Second Amendment is subject to reasonable restrictions and regulation, and the SCOTUS has affirmed that more than once. The NRA has consistently fought against ANY form of sensible gun control for years, and has repeated the lie about "Democrats are coming for your guns" so often that many otherwise sensible gun owners believe it.

The NRA is funded by ALEC (which wrote most of the relaxed and obscene SYG and CCW laws) and the Koch Brothers in the interest of promoting profits for gun manufacturers and sellers. These right-wing organizations have absolutely no interest in stemming the flow of illegal guns to criminals and the mentally challenged as long as the profits flow.

And that is the battle that responsible Americans for gun control are fighting: right-wing greed, and NRA lies and half-truths.

Often they take their families with them. onehandle Feb 2014 #1
Kick SecularMotion Feb 2014 #2
Breaking: car owners more likely to die in car accidents than non-car owners. Skip Intro Feb 2014 #3
Do you have statistics for that? SecularMotion Feb 2014 #4
Who is asking to ban guns in this thread? CreekDog Feb 2014 #14
It's a knee jerk reaction to a perceived threat to their favorite toys/weapons/obsession/precious. morningfog Feb 2014 #38
The design of cars can always be improved, as can the roadways kcr Feb 2014 #29
Link to study SecularMotion Feb 2014 #5
K&R billh58 Feb 2014 #6
Yep. And automobiles/driving are regulated far more than guns. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #8
The first part of your post is true, but billh58 Feb 2014 #11
actually sweetapogee Feb 2014 #20
If a person uses free speech billh58 Feb 2014 #23
Oh sweetapogee Feb 2014 #24
Factually incorrect Crepuscular Feb 2014 #16
Please re-read my post. billh58 Feb 2014 #17
Not really Crepuscular Feb 2014 #28
Knives also have a utilitarian purpose. billh58 Feb 2014 #31
"Punching a hole in paper targets" often while training to shoot people, Hoyt Feb 2014 #35
Seems a bit disingenuous Major Nikon Feb 2014 #37
My neighbor marions ghost Feb 2014 #7
The problem is that mylye2222 Feb 2014 #9
Yes, there are many other means of billh58 Feb 2014 #12
rather than being a parking lot rambo UncleMuscles Feb 2014 #10
Yep, I know of a recent incident in my neighborhood where a guy tried to commit quinnox Feb 2014 #13
Make it illegal to commit suicide ..... oldhippie Feb 2014 #15
Some places once had laws that punished suicide attempts by execution. tblue37 Feb 2014 #32
Yes. Iggo Feb 2014 #18
Please tell me what regulations would stop suicides? nt Logical Feb 2014 #19
i think sweetapogee Feb 2014 #21
True, that would help! n-t Logical Feb 2014 #22
You have to promise not to commit suicide before being allowed to buy a gun. Adrahil Feb 2014 #25
True! nt Logical Feb 2014 #26
Agreed. Mental health is ultimately at issue. And availability of health care. geckosfeet Feb 2014 #27
Why is the focus of this thread the risk of self-harm to men and not men's violence toward women? LeftyMom Feb 2014 #30
One discussion does not prevent the other; feel free to start a new OP. ManiacJoe Feb 2014 #34
The quote discusses both, but everybody glossed over the murdered women. It's telling. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #36
If someone wants to end their own life... JJChambers Feb 2014 #33
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