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87. Amen, Sister! Amen!

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Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:02 PM

Feb 2014

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Sometimes you can cut the rationalization with a knife.

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Oh Crap!!! "Social Security Cuts Still ‘on the Table’ but Not in Obama’s Budget"!!! [View all] grahamhgreen Feb 2014 OP

Sigh what is wrong with us. First we are throwing away children's school Cleita Feb 2014 #1

My Boss every year... yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #57

What an insensitive creep. Cleita Feb 2014 #60

Not at all yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #65

Doesn't matter n2doc Feb 2014 #2

It matters. Lasher Feb 2014 #5

^^^^THIS^^^^ cliffordu Feb 2014 #15

Absolutely it matters. woo me with science Feb 2014 #23

Let me get this straight. Marr Feb 2014 #39

OUCH! DJ13 Feb 2014 #42

That's gonna leave a mark! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2014 #50

Amazing isn't it? neverforget Feb 2014 #74

Smack! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #99

who gives a F*** about repukes? Skittles Feb 2014 #43

Amen, Sister! Amen! Lasher Feb 2014 #87

INDEED! woo me with science Feb 2014 #92

If it doesn't matter, then he shouldn't do it! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #93

Of course it matters. LIES matter. SS has NOTHING to do with the deficit. That is a lie sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #105

All the more proof that this admin is really just a shell for the real people in control ... MindMover Feb 2014 #127

Sad to say, that may very well be the case. n/t sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #133

This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Feb 2014 #3

I'll give up a little of my SS to get taxes increased, if that is what it takes. Hoyt Feb 2014 #4

They can increase taxes without penalizing the poor especially seniors Cleita Feb 2014 #6

How? krawhitham Feb 2014 #25

I didn't say they would do it, just that it can be done. Cleita Feb 2014 #26

So, we know it needs to be done, but are unwilling to do anything to get them to do it. Hoyt Feb 2014 #29

I wish you weren't right but you are. I'm suffering right now because of the way Cleita Feb 2014 #31

I'm no saying this cause I want it to be true, but things are really screwed up and they will get Hoyt Feb 2014 #34

We do need to band together and start pushing them to do the right thing. Cleita Feb 2014 #35

Here's an article on the transaction tax. Cleita Feb 2014 #36

Easy peasy.... IF you push for it, instead of offering up chained CPI! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #139

You act like the ONLY way to increase taxes on the wealthy is to cut SS, not true!!!! :-) grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #138

Trying to make them do the right thing by offering up SS cuts IS doing the wrong thing. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2014 #54

Agreed but... krawhitham Feb 2014 #91

Nice theory but what happens when the media is controlled by the conservatives themselves, the story grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #140

Politics 101. You withhold something like military funding from them until they cave. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #137

Do you turn complicated things over to folks who quote Medicine 101, Investments 101, Politics 101? Hoyt Feb 2014 #143

Only if what he's doing is actually trying to cut SS. Otherwise he's failing politics 101. You must grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #144

Well, FIRST you DON'T hand them everything they want and brag about bipartisanship. FiveGoodMen Feb 2014 #152

Then the next Republican in office cuts taxes and further cuts SS Fumesucker Feb 2014 #7

and which repuke are you talkin about fume ... MindMover Feb 2014 #159

It makes no difference, they ~all~ want to cut taxes Fumesucker Feb 2014 #160

You have no right to give up others' Social Security. woo me with science Feb 2014 #9

Nice to see some folks are not interested in what is best for country. Hoyt Feb 2014 #16

This is not what it takes. It's the opposite of what it takes. Conflating Social security with taxes grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #17

A bunch. How about you? I want more SS too, but it ain't happening. Hoyt Feb 2014 #20

You want more SS but support cutting it? neverforget Feb 2014 #76

You need to quit reading by pointing at each word. Try reading in chunks. Things will make sense. Hoyt Feb 2014 #84

I got that point by reading your posts "in chunks". neverforget Feb 2014 #98

I don't think tweaking it under a Democrat hurts us as much as when electorate Hoyt Feb 2014 #101

Well 117 House Democrats and 15 Senate Democrats disagree with you and Obama neverforget Feb 2014 #103

We need to cut SS *now,* because woo me with science Feb 2014 #102

What's with this buying of Republican talking points regarding Social Security? neverforget Feb 2014 #104

A bunch is not a number. Give me a number:) grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #116

Please stop the bullshit. The poorest are not protected at all--some of the cuts (but not all) eridani Feb 2014 #24

Actually, removing cap doesn't solve entire problem. And SS may well be 100% of my retirement. Hoyt Feb 2014 #33

The issue of shitty jobs is best dealt with by raising the minimum wage eridani Feb 2014 #44

Actually, it is not a separate issue because roughly 14% of increase goes to SS. Hoyt Feb 2014 #51

Is English your native tongue? Your lack of "the" bugs. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #72

Poor thing. Hoyt Feb 2014 #79

You don't give in to Repukes on Social Security, period eridani Feb 2014 #108

How do you plan to get that penny in time? Hoyt Feb 2014 #110

You are ignorant of Social Security. Please just stop. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #70

You doubt that huh? Here read this from report by Congressional Research Service Hoyt Feb 2014 #83

Raising the cap just on workers making over $250,000 makes it solvent 'forever', do you need a link grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #124

Would like to see a link. Bernie Sanders offered a Bill to do just that, it got nowhere. Hoyt Feb 2014 #129

Chained CPI got nowhere - get the president behind the Sanders bill and we can get it passed:) grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #148

Will not happen. You might get a much smaller tax on such income, if Hoyt Feb 2014 #151

"the youth who pay our SS"---EXCUSE ME?? WinkyDink Feb 2014 #62

Excuse you, no way. That's right, way system works today, current worker's FICA taxes are paying Hoyt Feb 2014 #82

That's bullshit. Current benefits are being paid out of the trust fund eridani Feb 2014 #106

You have to ge kidding. Read link in post 83. I wish your view were right, Hoyt Feb 2014 #107

The article relies on bullshit assumptions, projecting the shortfall to FOREVER eridani Feb 2014 #109

Wish today's SS Trustees were smoking the same stuff. Hoyt Feb 2014 #111

I take it you are admitting you were wrong about boomers prepaying their retirement? n/t eridani Feb 2014 #112

No, I'm right that they didn't pay enough, and I take no satisfaction in being right. Hoyt Feb 2014 #113

There is no shortfall, period eridani Feb 2014 #118

Do you even have an idea of what is paid out of the fund each year? That trillion Hoyt Feb 2014 #120

It's SUPPOSED to go fast! eridani Feb 2014 #121

If you go back to "pay as you go, " you gotta have enough people with good jobs paying in, and Hoyt Feb 2014 #122

That would also require exiting the costly trade agreements that siphon off high paying jobs. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #149

But we don't even need to raise taxes. Although I would be truedelphi Feb 2014 #12

I get it, but Congress doesn't. Heck, even Catford Commission supported big cuts military. Hoyt Feb 2014 #21

Why not bargain with military cuts? Either raise taxes or I'm cutting the military.... grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #125

Guess you missed the fact we are already starving children with cuts to food stamps while we do what Hoyt Feb 2014 #128

That's completely without basis. We just stood our ground and got chained-CPI off the table, lol!!! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #130

You give yourself too much credit. Hoyt Feb 2014 #134

Wait til you see Chained_CPI go away, pemanently:-) grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #146

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Feb 2014 #19

"I'll give up a little of my SS to get taxes increased, if that is what it takes." putitinD Feb 2014 #27

So nice and wonderful that you are willing Bohunk68 Feb 2014 #45

And Obama's proposal would not affect you. In fact, Catford Commission would have given you an Hoyt Feb 2014 #53

I've probably been involved in politics Bohunk68 Feb 2014 #117

You must be close to 90 years old. Hoyt Feb 2014 #123

I get $825/mo. yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #63

Neoliberalism = Republican economics. woo me with science Feb 2014 #8

That is the reason he so admires Saint Ronnie. Lasher Feb 2014 #10

But even David Stockman, Reagan's economic advisor, now thinks both truedelphi Feb 2014 #13

Yup. Want to drive home how extreme the corruption woo me with science Feb 2014 #68

And not FDR. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #64

Maybe ProSense Feb 2014 #14

Only those who didn't read or listen to his words, woo me with science Feb 2014 #22

+1 progressoid Feb 2014 #32

Dang! +1! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #41

That's hilarious. ProSense Feb 2014 #47

Question: ProSense Feb 2014 #49

Every time I see one of your long posts, I think of an octopus squirting ink. Marr Feb 2014 #37

Your comments remind me of nonsense. ProSense Feb 2014 #48

The charge is justified in this case. Lasher Feb 2014 #73

I can't imagine ProSense Feb 2014 #75

Wildly inaccurate assertion on two levels: Lasher Feb 2014 #85

You nailed it. woo me with science Feb 2014 #69

Maybe some on SS got a one-time check, but Bohunk68 Feb 2014 #46

We're only asking that he unequivocally take SS cuts off the table, now and forever. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #145

not really - just part of the grand strategy DrDan Feb 2014 #11

A principle of fairness, my ass: how effin' disingenuous indepat Feb 2014 #18

War is Peace. woo me with science Feb 2014 #78

Screwing little old ladies for billionaire pocket change is FAIR? aquart Feb 2014 #28

Third Way Planet. djean111 Feb 2014 #59

"The embrace of a culture of cruelty." woo me with science Feb 2014 #77

Triangulation...again. 2014 style. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #30

I have to wonder how Aerows Feb 2014 #40

Your exercise in futility is misspent ... because the government has little or nothing to do ... MindMover Feb 2014 #131

If you agree Aerows Feb 2014 #38

I know I will get slammed for this BUT this makes me sick. I never thought I'd EVER see a Democrat diabeticman Feb 2014 #52

No slamming from me and I agree... SammyWinstonJack Feb 2014 #56

I'm right there with you. "Democrat" = "100% S.S. Supporter." The New Deal is our raison d'etre. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #66

I think this should drive home to everyone that the Third Way woo me with science Feb 2014 #80

Earnest botched the response, but ProSense Feb 2014 #55

"I will need every penny I get from SS, but I'd put a little a risk in hopes we improve situation djean111 Feb 2014 #58

Exactly! ctsnowman Feb 2014 #88

Fine, we'll sit stagnant for a decade or two, and all those things - including SS - will get worse. Hoyt Feb 2014 #94

No reason to "sit stagnant". Unless you feel the onliest bestest thing to do is just djean111 Feb 2014 #97

No, I'm posting about political reality. Hoyt Feb 2014 #100

"We need to do something now" enlightenment Feb 2014 #141

OMG!!! "Principle of fairness"?!?! To take a PITTANCE from a billionaire and a LIFE-ALTERING WinkyDink Feb 2014 #61

That's the beauty of post-partisan negotiations jsr Feb 2014 #71

Fer shure! But I am partisan to the core! WinkyDink Feb 2014 #153

+1000000000 woo me with science Feb 2014 #86

and that's the crux of affluenza: the rich will complain even more about a 40% loss MisterP Feb 2014 #114

Indeed. And I have a real ancient one. I taught BritLit, and for the Medieval WinkyDink Feb 2014 #154

I'm afraid it's all a package, guys. You can't have the forever wars, the "free trade", the bankster Romulox Feb 2014 #67

We can't have our dystopia and eat it, too? nt woo me with science Feb 2014 #81

Link to the letter from Sen. Sanders ctsnowman Feb 2014 #89

It is really fascinating to read the Third Way talking points concerning Social Security cuts. djean111 Feb 2014 #90

Agreed. I can only think the majority of the pro-chained CPI crowd are paid trolls! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #115

I am starting to think of Third Way politicians and the people who support them as non-Democrats. djean111 Feb 2014 #119

I've heard the term "Republican Democrats" as well. I saw an article recently about the Koch's grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #126

kick woo me with science Feb 2014 #95

kick woo me with science Feb 2014 #96

Kicked because ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #132

Obama's Deputy Press Secretary Josh Earnest raised the issue. Why? grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #136

I did know a Deputy Press Secretary ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #142

Can't, but he can raise an issue! :-) grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #147

Would you be in favor of a CCPI ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #150

No on both:) grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #155

Why not? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #156

So I can simply say, NO on cuts to Social Security. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #158

That honest ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #161

In my view, any cuts to benefits to any parties weakens SS:) grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #162

Even if those cuts all fell on the wealthy? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #163

Yes. They need to be taxed more, not benefitted less. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #164

The administration has changed its tactics, truebluegreen Feb 2014 #135

same with its approach to warfare MisterP Feb 2014 #157