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68. No one would expect them to install a bonnie Stuart!
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 07:11 PM
Sep 2014

But it is true they have long memories. As do the Irish. Perhaps it is human nature to remember the old feuds. A long lingering example of the underlying animosity between the two countries concerns the Stone of Scone that the English captured in 1296. It was liberated in the 1950s by Scottish nationalists and returned to the Scots by the British in the 1990s to appease Scots who wanted to part with England. That's a long time to be fighting over a stone. And the unofficial national anthem is "Flower of Scotland" that celebrates the Scots defeating Edward's Army.

O flower of Scotland
When will we see
Your like again
That fought and died for
Your wee bit hill and glen
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again


2.
The hills are bare now
And autumn leaves lie thick and still
O'er land that is lost now
Which those so dearly held
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again


3.
Those days are passed now
And in the past they must remain
But we can still rise now
And be the nation again
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again




I find it hard to imagine a Scot with any sense of history voting to keep the union.
I really can't imagine any reason why I should care... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #1
At any rate, it is an interesting glimpse into DU. FSogol Sep 2014 #32
For the sake of the Scots, I hope YES wins. For the sake of the UK (and the rest of the world) pampango Sep 2014 #2
I honestly don't know tkmorris Sep 2014 #3
ANY group's desire to self-govern? frazzled Sep 2014 #21
Scotland like Ireland used to be an independent nation. riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #23
Well, some Texans say the same thing frazzled Sep 2014 #24
Has the US Government worked to exterminate Texans? riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #29
They haven't been independent since sabbat hunter Sep 2014 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #27
Mostly, yes tkmorris Sep 2014 #49
Anyone is, of course, free to renounce their US citizenship at any time. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #52
The union is indivisible. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #53
Moral authority, not Constitutional tkmorris Sep 2014 #60
Morality is subjective. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #63
I'm not so sure as you frazzled Sep 2014 #66
I want to take your point of view and twist it a bit... Massacure Sep 2014 #77
The Picts JHB Sep 2014 #4
The liberal economist Paul Krugman thinks it would be a disaster for Scotland economically. pnwmom Sep 2014 #5
Having a currency whose interest rate you do not control has proven to be disastrous. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #42
That was his fear. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #47
Wasn't that based on his assumption that they'd still share a currency with England? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #54
Do you have a link where England stated that? F4lconF16 Sep 2014 #76
I'll remain more concerned about what happens here Skidmore Sep 2014 #6
I don't live there Shadowflash Sep 2014 #7
I want re-Balkanization everywhere. librechik Sep 2014 #8
i like this idea. hifiguy Sep 2014 #14
You got that right Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #35
Why are many small national banks a good idea? hack89 Sep 2014 #17
yeah, that part is iffy--but at least there would be the chance for govt regulation librechik Sep 2014 #19
Right with ya librechik!! Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #34
Actually, balkanization serves globalization. ieoeja Sep 2014 #37
Willie! underpants Sep 2014 #9
My family fought for freedom from the Englanders too many times LiberalArkie Sep 2014 #10
Sassenach enlightenment Sep 2014 #18
I'm leaning Aye KamaAina Sep 2014 #11
For those of you who think it doesn't matter on this side of the pond KamaAina Sep 2014 #12
I would not pretend to know the up/downsides of this thing jberryhill Sep 2014 #13
Yes, for several reasons. La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #15
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India. A practice commonly used by the british called Divide and Conquer. La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #36
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LOL. i guess misogynists little assholes feel entitled to create their own history. nt La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #41
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you're having quite the breakdown, aren't you? aww La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #44
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I'm for the United Kingdom. WinkyDink Sep 2014 #16
The UK is broken, the only question is whether today will be a clean break. Here is why LittleBlue Sep 2014 #20
While some have pointed out that the withdrawal of lefty Scots from Parliament Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #56
Go Scotland! I mean that in every way. Nt Zorra Sep 2014 #22
I don't know. Raffi Ella Sep 2014 #25
I want whatever the Scottish people want, and I wish them luck. bigwillq Sep 2014 #26
I wish the Scots well either way CanonRay Sep 2014 #28
If the English are short-sighted enough Aerows Sep 2014 #75
It doesn't matter what anyone else "wishes" except the people of Scotland. still_one Sep 2014 #30
Getting our independence worked. Why shouldn't it for Scottland? lunatica Sep 2014 #31
If Scotland gets its independence, will it be bombed for its oil? valerief Sep 2014 #38
I believe in the right to self-determination me b zola Sep 2014 #40
For the world, I hope the no side wins. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #45
So where does the Queen go? Generic Other Sep 2014 #48
It's already been announced that an independent Scotland would retain the monarchy Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #50
So we will still be allowed to have bagpipes at Buckingham Palace? Generic Other Sep 2014 #58
The first results aren't expected until around 2am BST. Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #59
Doesn't look like a Florida butterfly ballot anyway! Generic Other Sep 2014 #61
A symbolic stand against what, exactly? Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #62
Ghosts of Culloden Generic Other Sep 2014 #64
That was centuries ago and doesn't much influence any reasons for Scots voting for independence... Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #65
No one would expect them to install a bonnie Stuart! Generic Other Sep 2014 #68
Actually this sort of historic sentimental bollocks.. Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #69
I believe you are 100% right about that Generic Other Sep 2014 #70
I live in the UK Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #71
Of course your concerns are about current issues Generic Other Sep 2014 #72
It's both symbolic and significant Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #74
I want the Scottish people to get what they want. Glassunion Sep 2014 #51
I'm hoping for a YES win eissa Sep 2014 #55
FREE SCOTLAND Kalidurga Sep 2014 #67
I don't know enough about it to say. NaturalHigh Sep 2014 #73
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