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19. I take the same view with disability fraud that many have claimed for the justice system

Fri Jun 5, 2015, 12:33 PM

Jun 2015

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In justice I would rather 100 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man get found guilty and so with disability I would rather 100 people scam the system than one worthy person be denied. I do not think the country is going broke because of this.

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Sorry folks there is disability fraud [View all] UglyGreed Jun 2015 OP

so lets make disability the new ronny raygun welfare cadilac? dembotoz Jun 2015 #1

You show me any program, I'll show you fraud NightWatcher Jun 2015 #2

I think we should go after CEOs cheating the system and your family member Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #6

Where's the money to fund an investigations division? NightWatcher Jun 2015 #8

I would bet you could stop more fraud than the investigation costs Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #10

I used to work in workman's comp fraud NightWatcher Jun 2015 #13

That's about the right number, from what I've seen. Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #108

You got it right unapatriciated Jun 2015 #151

Holy crap, your son has DM? NightWatcher Jun 2015 #155

Right now he is drug free (for dermato) for the first time in over 20 years. unapatriciated Jun 2015 #170

Sending thoughts and good wishes NightWatcher Jun 2015 #176

the CEO cheating the system has very deep pockets and can tie up the courts & govt KittyWampus Jun 2015 #93

+1000 Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2015 #36

That is exactly what CBS 60 Minutes did in their anti-SSDI program all anecdotal stories to prove jwirr Jun 2015 #53

When MSNBC was allegedly the "liberal" network, why didn't they daredtowork Jun 2015 #133

My son is on SSI unapatriciated Jun 2015 #161

Hear - hear. jwirr Jun 2015 #182

Right wingers won't adequately fund enforcement, House of Roberts Jun 2015 #3

That's why they trumpet these cases of fraud... Human101948 Jun 2015 #35

And the Pentagon "lost" $2.3 Trillion with a "T" over the last twenty years Fumesucker Jun 2015 #4

But is it fair UglyGreed Jun 2015 #9

There's on OP in GD right now about "reputation" on DU Fumesucker Jun 2015 #14

I'm sorry UglyGreed Jun 2015 #20

Exposing fraud would be giving names, addresses, relevant information, etc to the appropriate agency LanternWaste Jun 2015 #22

Well I have done that UglyGreed Jun 2015 #26

I know what you mean when talking to friends and relatives. It's like talking brewens Jun 2015 #57

Reminds me of a friend who now gets a huge PTSD check each month directly randys1 Jun 2015 #101

Well your headline is a strawman argument Bradical79 Jun 2015 #195

I'm for investiating and eliminating fraud in all levels of government. Throd Jun 2015 #12

The number I saw was $8.5 trillion gratuitous Jun 2015 #114

+100 Duppers Jun 2015 #152

Of course there's disability fraud. Igel Jun 2015 #5

And your point is... ? n/t DeadLetterOffice Jun 2015 #7

See my reply above N/T UglyGreed Jun 2015 #11

Some, but really a small percentage Prism Jun 2015 #15

I wonder what they did with that money. Let it sit in an offshore account maybe? valerief Jun 2015 #16

If I had a microphone i would give it to you so you could DROP IT randys1 Jun 2015 #104

Yes. we can do it Jun 2015 #131

Wow. Orrex Jun 2015 #198

Of course there is. So, the answer is across the board cuts? MineralMan Jun 2015 #17

Extremes are not UglyGreed Jun 2015 #24

You should go to the local media and see if you... Human101948 Jun 2015 #39

About $3 billion in tax money has been lost due to Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #18

I take the same view with disability fraud that many have claimed for the justice system CBGLuthier Jun 2015 #19

But the fraud hurts those UglyGreed Jun 2015 #27

No one is arguing in favor of fraud jberryhill Jun 2015 #34

How about we take the profit for lawyers UglyGreed Jun 2015 #71

I don't see any numbers jberryhill Jun 2015 #73

I feel UglyGreed Jun 2015 #82

Guess what, disabled people have a right to be represented jberryhill Jun 2015 #91

No some jackass decided UglyGreed Jun 2015 #94

And that doctors should make money from disease jberryhill Jun 2015 #98

Thank you! hatrack Jun 2015 #83

Lawyers are the enemy of the right, until they need one randys1 Jun 2015 #106

First off the lawyers are capped by Social Security on how giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #172

They make money on case loads or UglyGreed Jun 2015 #175

I agree with the not battling part but with there being giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #178

Many people put through the ringer UglyGreed Jun 2015 #181

The answer is less red tape not more. unapatriciated Jun 2015 #184

Lawyers who represent the disabled TexasBushwhacker Jun 2015 #196

Binder and Binder does make a tidy UglyGreed Jun 2015 #200

Considering the cap is only $6K TexasBushwhacker Jun 2015 #206

Yes volume UglyGreed Jun 2015 #207

The overblown claims of fraud are what hurt the disabled kcr Jun 2015 #191

So? blogslut Jun 2015 #21

Our culture is obsessed with punishment me b zola Jun 2015 #23

+1 L0oniX Jun 2015 #210

Republicans will never go after disability fraud. PassingFair Jun 2015 #25

For two reasons daredtowork Jun 2015 #44

Of my relatives and acquaintances who are "conservatives"... PassingFair Jun 2015 #46

The #1 reason conservatives need to stop whining about welfare and just fix it daredtowork Jun 2015 #55

you bet there is fraud KT2000 Jun 2015 #28

I battled WC UglyGreed Jun 2015 #31

+1000 valerief Jun 2015 #79

And a lot of people denied who should be getting it. Which is worse? yellowcanine Jun 2015 #29

Like myself UglyGreed Jun 2015 #32

I find it easier to get upset about folks being denied. yellowcanine Jun 2015 #37

Why does UglyGreed Jun 2015 #43

Because the sums are relatively small and going after the pikers means that yellowcanine Jun 2015 #58

Very well put. DeadLetterOffice Jun 2015 #59

Those people didn't get away with it daredtowork Jun 2015 #40

People like me ha UglyGreed Jun 2015 #42

Any of those parties can be investigated at any time daredtowork Jun 2015 #50

After three years UglyGreed Jun 2015 #52

Wrong. NOW YOU ARE SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION. daredtowork Jun 2015 #56

The results are in: Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #60

That proves the system works to CATCH fraud daredtowork Jun 2015 #30

Fraud makes harder for UglyGreed Jun 2015 #33

I call you on spreading Fox Talking Points daredtowork Jun 2015 #38

Yep easy to label me UglyGreed Jun 2015 #41

If they bragged they won their claim on false pretenses daredtowork Jun 2015 #51

+1 Hekate Jun 2015 #45

So. There is also bank fraud, pension and wage theft. we can do it Jun 2015 #47

Defection UglyGreed Jun 2015 #49

I have a disability. I am tired of being second guessed because of people like you. we can do it Jun 2015 #54

I have a disability also UglyGreed Jun 2015 #65

This Post is Pure Schadenfreude daredtowork Jun 2015 #84

Another attack UglyGreed Jun 2015 #97

You've attacked everyone on SSI/SSDI here. Don't even try for sympathy. nt daredtowork Jun 2015 #103

No I have not UglyGreed Jun 2015 #110

I'm proundly holding myself to the standard of Defender of the Truth. nt daredtowork Jun 2015 #113

Yes like the truth UglyGreed Jun 2015 #116

Nothing to do with your lie about the Reviews or your anecdotal "evidence". nt daredtowork Jun 2015 #121

Seven years UglyGreed Jun 2015 #124

You think your friends on Harleys qualified for No Improvement Possible? daredtowork Jun 2015 #125

Classy N/T UglyGreed Jun 2015 #128

My son has had no improvement in over 20 years. unapatriciated Jun 2015 #180

BTW doctors UglyGreed Jun 2015 #102

I also have pain management issues because I can't take aspirin or nsaids daredtowork Jun 2015 #109

I never wanted sympathy UglyGreed Jun 2015 #115

Your spouse's income does not affect your SSDisability REP Jun 2015 #117

My credits ran out UglyGreed Jun 2015 #120

You also said your spouse's income affected your ability to collect Disability (SSDI) REP Jun 2015 #122

Sorry I meant UglyGreed Jun 2015 #123

I find it very telling that UglyGreed Jun 2015 #48

I beg to differ. haele Jun 2015 #66

Guess they are in the 25% UglyGreed Jun 2015 #68

Are they on SSDI or Worker's Compensation Disability? haele Jun 2015 #77

Yes they are UglyGreed Jun 2015 #80

SSDI or Worker's Compensation? haele Jun 2015 #85

Am I the only one who officially disbelieves this claim? nt daredtowork Jun 2015 #86

Nope. REP Jun 2015 #119

Nope. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #163

I'm curious about this lawyer daredtowork Jun 2015 #78

My f-i-l was a disability lawyer DeadLetterOffice Jun 2015 #159

And many people My Good Babushka Jun 2015 #201

If you call- ruffburr Jun 2015 #61

you are the hundredth person UglyGreed Jun 2015 #63

what- ruffburr Jun 2015 #141

Lawyers and doctors UglyGreed Jun 2015 #142

Plenty of Fraud DustyJoe Jun 2015 #62

VA Disability isn't SSI/SSDI Disability daredtowork Jun 2015 #64

apples/oranges DustyJoe Jun 2015 #67

SSI/SSDI is INCREDIBLY HARD TO GET daredtowork Jun 2015 #74

just needs oversight DustyJoe Jun 2015 #87

No, you need to educate yourself: there is a TON OF OVERSIGHT daredtowork Jun 2015 #88

hard to get DustyJoe Jun 2015 #197

They fact there is an SS appeal lawyer industry is a sign of the problem daredtowork Jun 2015 #199

Yes, but TexasBushwhacker Jun 2015 #208

Difference between Disability Insurance and Retirement Disability haele Jun 2015 #70

I will tell you without a doubt some Soldiers are gaming giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #174

Instead of Carrying Water for Fox News Shouldn't We Be Arguing for Mincome? daredtowork Jun 2015 #69

Your Fox news UglyGreed Jun 2015 #72

Have you apologized for your lie yet? daredtowork Jun 2015 #75

My lies? UglyGreed Jun 2015 #92

You're reading that wrong daredtowork Jun 2015 #100

Read the document UglyGreed Jun 2015 #107

I'm IN this system daredtowork Jun 2015 #112

You are right unapatriciated Jun 2015 #183

and your slip is showing Kalidurga Jun 2015 #167

oops UglyGreed Jun 2015 #169

I will not Kalidurga Jun 2015 #171

I did not think UglyGreed Jun 2015 #177

It's only because Kalidurga Jun 2015 #185

Why would you think Texasgal Jun 2015 #76

This OP might have been aimed at me daredtowork Jun 2015 #81

Now I'm attacking you UglyGreed Jun 2015 #96

There is fraud in every program where money is involved.. sendero Jun 2015 #89

You want fraud look no further than the corporations with offshore addresses or B Calm Jun 2015 #90

Using a few anecdotes about disability fraud to cut off hundreds is absurd csziggy Jun 2015 #95

A proper system must have a small percentage of Fraud One_Life_To_Give Jun 2015 #99

Thank you for UglyGreed Jun 2015 #129

Yes it is reasonable because unapatriciated Jun 2015 #186

So just because a few idiots commit fraud onecaliberal Jun 2015 #105

Wish I could answer you. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2015 #148

I was going to post several articles edhopper Jun 2015 #111

Please post anyway if they are handy daredtowork Jun 2015 #118

Here are a few edhopper Jun 2015 #190

Thanks - bookmarking for future use! nt daredtowork Jun 2015 #194

Well all I did was UglyGreed Jun 2015 #126

Perhaps you would feel more comfortable with your "own" onecaliberal Jun 2015 #144

Yes but UglyGreed Jun 2015 #166

It is a fraction of the costs, and my question is always the following: randys1 Jun 2015 #127

Yes, there is fraud in the SSDI, it has been documented. It does not mean the Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #130

I never said it is a bad program UglyGreed Jun 2015 #132

I did not call you a liar. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #134

Oh well UglyGreed Jun 2015 #135

What exactly would you like to be done about it? Avalux Jun 2015 #136

Sure there is but not like 60 minutes portrayed it to be madokie Jun 2015 #137

I am going by what I have seen UglyGreed Jun 2015 #138

Sorry but i'm not attacking you madokie Jun 2015 #143

I know you are not attacking me UglyGreed Jun 2015 #147

My brother's m.i.l. is one too. Duppers Jun 2015 #139

Takes guts to reply to this thread UglyGreed Jun 2015 #140

Not as much guts as it takes to out yourself by posting this thread. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #145

Jeepers. Read my replies. Duppers Jun 2015 #153

The reply wasn't to you Duppers onecaliberal Jun 2015 #156

outing myself as a person UglyGreed Jun 2015 #154

Outing yourself as a person who is on a Democratic Blog spouting Faux Talking points. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #157

Again with the Fox News BS UglyGreed Jun 2015 #158

If the shoe fits, wear it. When you come in here spouting faux talking points you are going to be onecaliberal Jun 2015 #160

So very liberal of you UglyGreed Jun 2015 #162

You yourself just posted about "invisible illness" My Good Babushka Jun 2015 #202

And you have UglyGreed Jun 2015 #203

So then report it. My Good Babushka Jun 2015 #205

Oh and let me add UglyGreed Jun 2015 #204

I agree with posters on this thread. Duppers Jun 2015 #146

+1 Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2015 #149

I understand but at least UglyGreed Jun 2015 #150

I've read some of your other posts. Duppers Jun 2015 #165

Thank you for UglyGreed Jun 2015 #168

So what? Brickbat Jun 2015 #164

humans are easily corrupted... so? spanone Jun 2015 #173

I will never doubt that fraud in that, and other, programs exist bluestateguy Jun 2015 #179

^^^^^^this^^^^^ unapatriciated Jun 2015 #187

good point Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #188

With people being denied UglyGreed Jun 2015 #189

OMG, there's a spider on the wall! Honey, get the flame thrower... kcr Jun 2015 #192

so what? ibegurpard Jun 2015 #193

SSDI is very hard to get. You get automatically denied. You need to get a lawyer to get it. L0oniX Jun 2015 #209