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Freelancer

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104. Addressing reality while we try to change it...
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 04:57 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Wed Jul 29, 2015, 06:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Reality: America is a gun culture. About 25% of America strongly disagrees with that. Around 50% either own one or none, but object to the right being impinged. AND about 25% own multiple guns (and we can assume where they stand).

Reality: America is becoming more Hispanic by the year. Simply requiring Spanish speakers to learn English does not address the real issue -- that English speaking European descendants dislike Hispanics having another language (that they don't understand) at all. They may be plotting an overthrow, you know (said facetiously).

If we choose to address reality, while we try to change it, then I propose that ALL children in U.S. schools be required to learn about gun safety, and also be required to learn Spanish. Spanish for obvious reasons of national and hemispheric cohesion, and guns so that they can understand the destructive potential involved with firearms and have some grasp of how thick a piece of concrete or wood needs to be to provide survivable cover, in a theater, a school, or a church/temple/synagogue, in the unlikely event that someone barges in with a gun.

This proposal gives something to the left AND the right by acknowledging that neither one is going away. In the bargain, the rising generation will become less xenophobic, and maybe 30 or 40 people a year will survive the toxic side-effects of having a gun culture, who otherwise might perish.

I wish HassleCat Jul 2015 #1
Private individuals owning guns awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #36
And look at all the wonderful things the MIC has brought us. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #50
True, they need scaled back awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #72
America already has a massive Militia - armed with 320 million guns....illegally because where is the "well regulated" part?? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #69
And the 2nd Amendment Death Eaters Are the Equivalent of Climate Deniers villager Jul 2015 #2
it's a great freedom dontcha know! Skittles Jul 2015 #6
I often wonder whether families whose beloved guns end up killing their child or other loved one tblue37 Jul 2015 #14
honestly, I think they are too stupid to "rethink" Skittles Jul 2015 #41
+1 2naSalit Jul 2015 #76
+1 Just like anyone who profits from the death and assured suffering of others. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #74
"revisit it to clarify or change"? louis-t Jul 2015 #3
In America it's all about $$$$$'s. Guns + ammunition = big $$$$$'s. So, it becomes cult behavior as RKP5637 Jul 2015 #4
This is really some of his finest writing n/t n2doc Jul 2015 #5
Yes, it is. And preferable by a degree to the ruder writings. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #8
The lack of rudeness demonstrates Jeff Murdoch Jul 2015 #15
Totally agree angel823 Jul 2015 #17
Human history shows that each death cult is eventually overthrown ... by another death cult -- nt Freelancer Jul 2015 #7
This is a very well written piece, made stronger by his restraint mnhtnbb Jul 2015 #9
His best yet matt819 Jul 2015 #10
Outstanding work. Way to go, Rudester. (nt) Paladin Jul 2015 #11
the NRA's 5 million members and the Gun Manufacturer's are way more important NoMoreRepugs Jul 2015 #12
This is his best essay by far steve2470 Jul 2015 #13
Is it really about the children? Really? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #25
........ daleanime Jul 2015 #27
I guess children only count when killed by guns? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #28
If you want to make guesses.... daleanime Jul 2015 #32
It's been 2.6 years since Adam Lanza killed 20 children Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #35
"It's hard to attribute any sense of seriousness...." daleanime Jul 2015 #38
You make that claim while dismissing 11,000 lives over 20. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #40
Where are you getting that 11k number from? Because at most I'm finding 4.5k riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #45
4,300 x the 2.6 years since Sandy Hook Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #51
You're going after daleanime with bogus numbers - trying to compare riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #90
How many people are killed by semi-auto long guns yet it serves as the fixation for Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #91
And you guys have scarfed up millions more gunz that we will have to deal with sooner or later. Hoyt Jul 2015 #52
Disregard for society? Or disregard for police who aren't good for anything much more than Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #54
So now you are going to use your gunz to protect us from the police. NO THANKS and BS. Hoyt Jul 2015 #55
Derp! What a great way of summarizing something I never said. Deal with your incompetent goons Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #59
Plenty of ways to protect yourself without loading up on gunz and ammo. Hoyt Jul 2015 #62
But what about high capacity bean cans? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #63
Worked for me. You just can't believe people don't need a gun to sleep with, go to the store, Hoyt Jul 2015 #68
Cool story, bro. And then what happened? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #71
Why don't you tell us about using one of your many gunz to protect yourself, or intimidate others, Hoyt Jul 2015 #73
I don't have a story. I hope to never have one but that doesn't mean violent predators are myths. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #75
So in other words, you've been hoarding guns, carrying them, and promoting them, yet Hoyt Jul 2015 #79
Have I been hoarding guns? How many guns do I own, Hoyt? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #82
"I have a problem with cowboy, police wannabes..." Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #77
We are talking about gunners playing Zimmerman and cowboys. Hoyt Jul 2015 #81
The police are the problem. How come you grabbers never appeal to the timeliness and conpentency of Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #84
You are a problem too. Next thing, you'll try to shift attention from ypur gun fixation to global Hoyt Jul 2015 #87
"showing off your latest lethal weapons acquisition" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #88
You make a great point hueymahl Jul 2015 #64
underaged drinking is against the law treestar Jul 2015 #66
For this country, it is steve2470 Jul 2015 #29
The terms "common sense" and "reasonable" have become weasel words in the mouths of the Controllers. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #33
#33 sasquuatch55 Jul 2015 #48
USC Title 10, Section 311 Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #49
Exactly Krytan11c Jul 2015 #39
America libodem Jul 2015 #16
Idiot religion and incessant propaganda hifiguy Jul 2015 #34
Agree! libodem Jul 2015 #37
Religion has been an incredibly powerful tool of control by the powerful for centuries, Arugula Latte Jul 2015 #99
Sshhhh, stop being accurate shenmue Jul 2015 #42
Of course, that's if they have the money to go to the movie theater to be murdered, or are young and jtuck004 Jul 2015 #18
The rude one and I definitely share a brain on this one. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #19
Um... beevul Jul 2015 #20
CDC says 88,000 a year from alcohol. Indydem Jul 2015 #23
Alcohol has a purpose outside of killing. Used responsibly it causes little problem. CBGLuthier Jul 2015 #57
Blah blah blah. Indydem Jul 2015 #61
I own several melm00se Jul 2015 #67
So guns cannot be used responsibly? hack89 Jul 2015 #95
And that number (10,000 gun murders per year) is about 50% lower than it was 25 years ago NickB79 Jul 2015 #24
The CDC is not allowed to study gun violence, per the gun nuts in Congress. alarimer Jul 2015 #56
Ipso facto not true as a gun control advocate cited CDC gun stats to me up-thread. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #60
"the United States is now a death cult built around the worship of guns." Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #21
sometimes I think that not only have we bbgrunt Jul 2015 #22
"A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State." Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #26
The RP is more spot-on than he suspects. Check music videos: filled with death-cult imagery. Check WinkyDink Jul 2015 #30
NS, Sherlocks here, that people die from other causes. What's your point---that therefore we WinkyDink Jul 2015 #31
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #43
Brilliant. Thank you, fellow Southerner, for being a voice of reason. n/t FourScore Jul 2015 #44
Yep. It's a death cult. hunter Jul 2015 #46
"If we continue to do nothing, we are all mentally ill" n/t handmade34 Jul 2015 #47
Best Rude Pundit post ever (to me anyway) rurallib Jul 2015 #53
Excellent post Rudie malaise Jul 2015 #58
Why can't we have a War on Guns? That way the bloodythirsty ammosexuals can valerief Jul 2015 #65
The 15 billion a year spent on the War on Drugs could easily be slid over for the War on Guns. nt onehandle Jul 2015 #70
Because the majority of Americans TeddyR Jul 2015 #83
Most people don't have or want guns. Ignored forever. nt valerief Jul 2015 #93
Never happen -- sorry. This is America's lot, and we have to deal with it. Maybe gun-free zones? Freelancer Jul 2015 #85
You've convinced me we need a WAR on GUNS, especially since most valerief Jul 2015 #94
What about my honest reply deserves an "ignore forever"? I don't get this forum sometimes. -- nt Freelancer Jul 2015 #98
Let us know when YOU or your child(ren) sign up to fight in that "war", mmkay? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #106
You call for a war but blame others for being bloodthirsty? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #108
I can see from your favorite group what you value most, and it ain't safety. Ignored forever. nt valerief Jul 2015 #109
Ignored forever = ran away forever Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #110
This is a particularly good one, RP. n/t DirkGently Jul 2015 #78
Gun fetishist rule this country. lark Jul 2015 #80
So TeddyR Jul 2015 #86
Yeah, true about the names. That's my frustration with so many unnecessary gun deaths. lark Jul 2015 #97
I love the fact that he's pissing off the ammosexuals in D.U. d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #89
Guns are regulated as well but you know that. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #92
If you're talking about army guns and clips d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #100
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Hemenway? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #115
Guns are regulated hack89 Jul 2015 #96
Sure they are. That's why the Assault Rifle Ban was renewed! d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #101
So gun regulation starts and ends with the AWB? hack89 Jul 2015 #103
Never said that it starts with the AWB d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #105
You are wrong hack89 Jul 2015 #107
The CT AWB was molded after the Federal AWB and d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #113
Addressing reality while we try to change it... Freelancer Jul 2015 #104
the RP lost me melm00se Jul 2015 #116
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