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TheProgressive

(1,656 posts) Thu Aug 13, 2015, 09:10 PM Aug 2015

Absolutely no one in government should implement a 'private email server'... [View all]

GW Bush did it. Hillary Clinton did it...Who else?

If you are doing the official business of the United States of America, all emails should be sent/received and 100% accounted for on
federal secured email servers.

Otherwise, where is the transparency (top secret emails withstanding)? Otherwise, it gives the impression of
corruption... And that should not ever be permitted by the American public.

Period.

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Absolutely no one in government should implement a 'private email server'... [View all] TheProgressive Aug 2015 OP

For those unaware of the Bush email issue there's a Wikipedia article on the topic... PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #1

Thanks for providing this link... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #9

and Colin Powell Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #26

But was Hillary's server hacked? Was Powell's? Did China get into their e-mail systems or just kelliekat44 Aug 2015 #73

I agree. SheilaT Aug 2015 #2

See my #3. One of the things you find as an IT Person is if you prevent folks from doing their jobs stevenleser Aug 2015 #4

^THIS^ SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #39

The other thing you learn, goldent Aug 2015 #68

Depends on the organization. That doesn't fly most places anymore. stevenleser Aug 2015 #74

"Otherwise, IT Security is mandated from the highest level in most organizations now" goldent Aug 2015 #76

Nope, State and the US Government has other safeguards and folks to whom you can report wrongdoing. stevenleser Aug 2015 #77

I'm talking about the reality of how things work goldent Aug 2015 #79

I am too. And with the OIGs there is anonymous reporting so that takes away reluctance. stevenleser Aug 2015 #80

The State dept email system was essentially unaccessible remotely. Clinton was almost always remote stevenleser Aug 2015 #3

Sorry... these excuses are not allowed. TheProgressive Aug 2015 #6

Of course it's allowed because it's the truth. And you obviously don't know the first thing stevenleser Aug 2015 #13

Really? TheProgressive Aug 2015 #14

If you bothered to do any research, you would know this has been complained about by the last 5 stevenleser Aug 2015 #15

Do you have a link for the 'last 5' SoS? TheProgressive Aug 2015 #19

So you admit you have done no research on this at all before opining? Because links on this abound. stevenleser Aug 2015 #21

My point remains... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #24

Which goes back to my second comment to you. You don't understand government procurement. stevenleser Aug 2015 #28

Don't you think the communications of the United States Sec of State... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #29

Short answer? No, I don't. All of that persons communications don't need to be secure. stevenleser Aug 2015 #31

Ok, now this is interesting... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #37

No. That system is specifically for classified emails. It's not supposed to be used for normal SOS stevenleser Aug 2015 #40

Do you have some sort of security clearance to know this? TheProgressive Aug 2015 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author stevenleser Aug 2015 #46

This all came out with the Chelsea Manning situation. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #47

Thanks very much - that clears everything up! TheProgressive Aug 2015 #49

Anyone who has worked for the government knows about class/unclass partitioning Recursion Aug 2015 #70

Yes. All classified emails are supposed to be kept to the classified network Recursion Aug 2015 #69

It really is laughable... malokvale77 Aug 2015 #66

Because there are people who know better. And here is a simple example that should drive it home. stevenleser Aug 2015 #78

The Secretary of State is not the Pawnee Parks Department. Marr Aug 2015 #65

Have you not been following the ACA website debacle? alarimer Aug 2015 #75

WTF? You think the State Department should use telegraph cables? cheapdate Aug 2015 #23

Yes, technology went right from telegraph to... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #25

You don't believe in laws? Well, that's obviously the problem then. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #62

Accusation not borne in fact.... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #63

They weren't using email in 1915, obviously... Thor_MN Aug 2015 #44

I just love these responses...! TheProgressive Aug 2015 #45

And we love the whine about absolutely everything... Thor_MN Aug 2015 #48

As do I MyNameGoesHere Aug 2015 #51

I'll be happy to take a test and compare the results to yours... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #57

The federal government has been repeatedly hacked. We have not heard Word One about Clinton.... Hekate Aug 2015 #50

Isn't it bothersome... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #55

Colin Powell used a private server and erased all the emails after he left office. pnwmom Aug 2015 #61

If that's the case how would it have been possibe to snagglepuss Aug 2015 #12

The first responsibility of anyone in any job is to get the job done. If the appropriate materials stevenleser Aug 2015 #17

So, I guess... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #20

I'm not impressed by logical fallacies like Straw men. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #22

Not a straw man - it is fact... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #30

No, it's not. You've demonstrated you really don't have a handle on this at all. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #32

What stevenleser seems to be saying is "The ends justify the means" RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #33

No, I'm not saying that. But that is an interesting straw man. stevenleser Aug 2015 #34

Yo, Fallacy King! You need to expand your repertoire. RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #41

Well, if they use different fallacies, I will call them out on them. People seem to like to try to stevenleser Aug 2015 #42

Thank you Steven for taking this on in your answers throughout this subthread. Why do they ... Hekate Aug 2015 #52

If this was so obvious then why wasn't it banned? dsc Aug 2015 #5

Really? TheProgressive Aug 2015 #7

No, it doesnt. Your continued objections without any knowledge sound lame. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #16

That you are incredulous does not mean LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #54

I agree 100% No one no matter which party should use a "Private email server" to conduct the busines diabeticman Aug 2015 #8

It does not matter which email system they use, the NSA reads all of them anyway. Bunkalup Aug 2015 #10

Its more about transparency - don't you agree? TheProgressive Aug 2015 #11

I agree. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #18

What about text on cell phone? Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #27

What about it? (nt) Recursion Aug 2015 #71

Colin Powell, as I understand it. But it would be nice if the antique government pnwmom Aug 2015 #35

The problem is the Hatch act. Indydem Aug 2015 #36

If it wasn't against the rules, I don't have a problem with it. David__77 Aug 2015 #38

It Gets Worse... WillyT Aug 2015 #53

Oh brother don't wet yourself. LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #58

Yeah a real "Anarchist's Cookbook" there, Will... LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #64

That is so funny. malokvale77 Aug 2015 #67

Contractors and service members all over the air force ran them for years, may still. jtuck004 Aug 2015 #56

Scott Walker did too Pharaoh Aug 2015 #59

That is the law now, so of course. It wasn't the law when Hillary was SoS. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #60

Sarah Palin had a problem with this, too, when she was governor. Blue_In_AK Aug 2015 #72