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71. What about it? (nt)

Reply to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #27)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:08 AM

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Absolutely no one in government should implement a 'private email server'... [View all] TheProgressive Aug 2015 OP

For those unaware of the Bush email issue there's a Wikipedia article on the topic... PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #1

Thanks for providing this link... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #9

and Colin Powell Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #26

But was Hillary's server hacked? Was Powell's? Did China get into their e-mail systems or just kelliekat44 Aug 2015 #73

I agree. SheilaT Aug 2015 #2

See my #3. One of the things you find as an IT Person is if you prevent folks from doing their jobs stevenleser Aug 2015 #4

^THIS^ SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #39

The other thing you learn, goldent Aug 2015 #68

Depends on the organization. That doesn't fly most places anymore. stevenleser Aug 2015 #74

"Otherwise, IT Security is mandated from the highest level in most organizations now" goldent Aug 2015 #76

Nope, State and the US Government has other safeguards and folks to whom you can report wrongdoing. stevenleser Aug 2015 #77

I'm talking about the reality of how things work goldent Aug 2015 #79

I am too. And with the OIGs there is anonymous reporting so that takes away reluctance. stevenleser Aug 2015 #80

The State dept email system was essentially unaccessible remotely. Clinton was almost always remote stevenleser Aug 2015 #3

Sorry... these excuses are not allowed. TheProgressive Aug 2015 #6

Of course it's allowed because it's the truth. And you obviously don't know the first thing stevenleser Aug 2015 #13

Really? TheProgressive Aug 2015 #14

If you bothered to do any research, you would know this has been complained about by the last 5 stevenleser Aug 2015 #15

Do you have a link for the 'last 5' SoS? TheProgressive Aug 2015 #19

So you admit you have done no research on this at all before opining? Because links on this abound. stevenleser Aug 2015 #21

My point remains... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #24

Which goes back to my second comment to you. You don't understand government procurement. stevenleser Aug 2015 #28

Don't you think the communications of the United States Sec of State... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #29

Short answer? No, I don't. All of that persons communications don't need to be secure. stevenleser Aug 2015 #31

Ok, now this is interesting... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #37

No. That system is specifically for classified emails. It's not supposed to be used for normal SOS stevenleser Aug 2015 #40

Do you have some sort of security clearance to know this? TheProgressive Aug 2015 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author stevenleser Aug 2015 #46

This all came out with the Chelsea Manning situation. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #47

Thanks very much - that clears everything up! TheProgressive Aug 2015 #49

Anyone who has worked for the government knows about class/unclass partitioning Recursion Aug 2015 #70

Yes. All classified emails are supposed to be kept to the classified network Recursion Aug 2015 #69

It really is laughable... malokvale77 Aug 2015 #66

Because there are people who know better. And here is a simple example that should drive it home. stevenleser Aug 2015 #78

The Secretary of State is not the Pawnee Parks Department. Marr Aug 2015 #65

Have you not been following the ACA website debacle? alarimer Aug 2015 #75

WTF? You think the State Department should use telegraph cables? cheapdate Aug 2015 #23

Yes, technology went right from telegraph to... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #25

You don't believe in laws? Well, that's obviously the problem then. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #62

Accusation not borne in fact.... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #63

They weren't using email in 1915, obviously... Thor_MN Aug 2015 #44

I just love these responses...! TheProgressive Aug 2015 #45

And we love the whine about absolutely everything... Thor_MN Aug 2015 #48

As do I MyNameGoesHere Aug 2015 #51

I'll be happy to take a test and compare the results to yours... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #57

The federal government has been repeatedly hacked. We have not heard Word One about Clinton.... Hekate Aug 2015 #50

Isn't it bothersome... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #55

Colin Powell used a private server and erased all the emails after he left office. pnwmom Aug 2015 #61

If that's the case how would it have been possibe to snagglepuss Aug 2015 #12

The first responsibility of anyone in any job is to get the job done. If the appropriate materials stevenleser Aug 2015 #17

So, I guess... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #20

I'm not impressed by logical fallacies like Straw men. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #22

Not a straw man - it is fact... TheProgressive Aug 2015 #30

No, it's not. You've demonstrated you really don't have a handle on this at all. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #32

What stevenleser seems to be saying is "The ends justify the means" RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #33

No, I'm not saying that. But that is an interesting straw man. stevenleser Aug 2015 #34

Yo, Fallacy King! You need to expand your repertoire. RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #41

Well, if they use different fallacies, I will call them out on them. People seem to like to try to stevenleser Aug 2015 #42

Thank you Steven for taking this on in your answers throughout this subthread. Why do they ... Hekate Aug 2015 #52

If this was so obvious then why wasn't it banned? dsc Aug 2015 #5

Really? TheProgressive Aug 2015 #7

No, it doesnt. Your continued objections without any knowledge sound lame. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #16

That you are incredulous does not mean LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #54

I agree 100% No one no matter which party should use a "Private email server" to conduct the busines diabeticman Aug 2015 #8

It does not matter which email system they use, the NSA reads all of them anyway. Bunkalup Aug 2015 #10

Its more about transparency - don't you agree? TheProgressive Aug 2015 #11

I agree. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #18

What about text on cell phone? Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #27

What about it? (nt) Recursion Aug 2015 #71

Colin Powell, as I understand it. But it would be nice if the antique government pnwmom Aug 2015 #35

The problem is the Hatch act. Indydem Aug 2015 #36

If it wasn't against the rules, I don't have a problem with it. David__77 Aug 2015 #38

It Gets Worse... WillyT Aug 2015 #53

Oh brother don't wet yourself. LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #58

Yeah a real "Anarchist's Cookbook" there, Will... LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #64

That is so funny. malokvale77 Aug 2015 #67

Contractors and service members all over the air force ran them for years, may still. jtuck004 Aug 2015 #56

Scott Walker did too Pharaoh Aug 2015 #59

That is the law now, so of course. It wasn't the law when Hillary was SoS. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #60

Sarah Palin had a problem with this, too, when she was governor. Blue_In_AK Aug 2015 #72