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hunter

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43. The women of my family, and my wife's family, are fire-breathing Wild West matriarchal.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:30 AM
Aug 2015

My great grandmas were fierce. The only grandparent of my wife I was privileged to meet was fiercely proud of her Mexican and Southwestern Native American heritage and was master of her domain. Her children were born in California, in farmworker camps, because she decided that would be best for them. My wife's dad, by some quirk of history, was born in a tent a short walk from a small farm my parents later owned.

I observe there is quite a bit of push-back against this sort of family structure, even by men who consider themselves liberal and progressive, especially white men who have never lived in a culture of fire-breathing women.

My mom got a huge amount of push-back in her career before she retired, and my wife gets that kind of push-back now. Men are strong, but strong women are... any number of demeaning words and stereotypes. My sister recently quit a job because she was tired of that shit.

Strong women who are not white are treated even worse. Honestly, that's where a lot of Hillary Clinton support comes from. Both men and women who grow up in these sorts of matriarchal families, especially in non-white families, have witnessed or experienced all the crap fire-breathing women have to put up with in this society, even from their supposed allies.

What Anna should do is divorce that ass, get half, take those kids, and run. MADem Aug 2015 #1
I said the exact same thing in another thread! Initech Aug 2015 #7
Quiverfull of horseshit, if you ask me! Brainwashing basstids! nt MADem Aug 2015 #10
Ha! I want that on a bumper sticker! Initech Aug 2015 #33
It would make a good one, I grant you that! MADem Aug 2015 #35
Agreed. 47of74 Aug 2015 #38
Glad we agree that religion is brainwashing. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #45
I think it depends on how heavy the hand is. If the religion is full of "thou shalt nots" with MADem Aug 2015 #48
What would she get half of ToxMarz Aug 2015 #14
TLC and that Think Tank where he worked would have signed a contract with HIM, not his mommy and MADem Aug 2015 #20
If he is worth anything I think leaving should be an serious consideration ToxMarz Aug 2015 #31
Get half of what? JDPriestly Aug 2015 #15
You don't think that guy is worth a small FORTUNE? They didn't pay minimum MADem Aug 2015 #16
Good advice. Thanks to California's Spanish heritage and our community property law, it is JDPriestly Aug 2015 #25
I'd cut a deal with Gloria Allred--it would be worth it to pay her a hefty chunk in MADem Aug 2015 #36
I wish!!!! But, these fundamentalist women are brainwashed into thinking they are helpless. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #39
Leah Remini broke her chains--there's hope for others trapped in crazy cults. nt MADem Aug 2015 #40
Exactly, she's been taught since birth Bettie Aug 2015 #42
I grew up in that mindset. alphafemale Aug 2015 #18
True, but other choices are really difficult for so many women. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #21
Amen, but she is too immersed in the religion and she has low self-esteem... :-( secondwind Aug 2015 #17
Brainwashed. It's sad. MADem Aug 2015 #19
Maybe they would let her take the girls and leave the boys behind? ncjustice80 Aug 2015 #23
Those pervs would probably flip that script. I wouldn't trust them within a thousand yards MADem Aug 2015 #50
Fundamentlism is a global pox along with RW think tank cults. Rex Aug 2015 #28
The person writing this should learn all of the details, Anna knew he fingered his sisters snooper2 Aug 2015 #44
Are you sure of that, or did she just SAY that after the story broke...? nt MADem Aug 2015 #49
I guess we will probably never know... snooper2 Aug 2015 #51
Well, they certainly misrepresented themselves to their public for years, so either some lies are MADem Aug 2015 #52
Josh set himself up for another fall... Possible Permanent Lifetime Alimony! TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #54
Some woman stay with their husbands no matter what yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #55
Thank you for this Facebook post! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2015 #2
Excellent Post! smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #3
She could start by joining a different, more mainstream church. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #4
A better idea would be to leave religion altogether. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #46
Such a great post, I hope it goes viral DesertRat Aug 2015 #5
Add to this horror story, the Dugger girls. They have held this carnal knowledge libdem4life Aug 2015 #6
Unfortunately, it's not just religion laundry_queen Aug 2015 #8
I'm sorry about your parents shenmue Aug 2015 #22
Good luck! roscoeroscoe Aug 2015 #29
You have my admiration, Laundry Queen. 3catwoman3 Aug 2015 #30
This landed on my Facebook page sufrommich Aug 2015 #9
Sadly, she is taking some of the blame Lunabell Aug 2015 #11
Religion is an insult to human dignity - Steven Weinberg...nt SidDithers Aug 2015 #12
And yet so many responses call for her to do nothing more than change her flavor of religion. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #47
I'm so happy to see this family get what it finally deserves. Efilroft Sul Aug 2015 #13
worse, she was probably chosen for her family resemblance MisterP Aug 2015 #24
You missed one important point. dem in texas Aug 2015 #26
There is enough blame to pass around to the parents and grand parents. And cult wacko cult leaders. Rex Aug 2015 #27
I breathe fire because my mother didn't, my daughter breathes fire because I did. joanbarnes Aug 2015 #32
and No birth control for her but bet Josh was using it w the strippers Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #34
She knew he molested his sisters before she married him. Solly Mack Aug 2015 #37
"As for my girls, I'll raise them to think they breathe fire." SMC22307 Aug 2015 #41
The women of my family, and my wife's family, are fire-breathing Wild West matriarchal. hunter Aug 2015 #43
If she leaves the family, she will never want for anything Android3.14 Aug 2015 #53
What Anna needs is a good lawyer and a good therapist DebbieCDC Aug 2015 #56
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