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35. What utter nonsense.

Sun Jun 17, 2012, 08:48 AM

Jun 2012

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(And no need to specify "ultra-liberal" Democrat, btw. A traditional, "preserve the safety nets/living wage/civil liberties, eschew the drone wars/police state/austerity-for-the-masses" Democrat would do...)

A huge part of the reason ratings for Washington are in the toilet is that people are sick and tired of being utterly ignored and force-fed policies that are exactly the opposite of what we keep telling them, clearly, that we want:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=812835

You don't vote for what is not offered to you, and the corporate oligarchy has been very carefully putting into place a system to shut out, marginalize, or smear candidates who threaten to offer or legitimize choices they don't want voters to have:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=809566

Thanks to bvar for excellent posts on this subject.

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Want to know why we can't get an ultra-liberal Democratic president? [View all] NNN0LHI Jun 2012 OP

We're not allowed. WingDinger Jun 2012 #1

That's right! We're not allowed. The sooner we realize that, the better.... SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #9

Yep. We're stuck with voting for "not as bad" or third party. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #2

A favorite quote HarveyDarkey Jun 2012 #4

Nope. Actually it has come down to choice of voting for someone who is sane or someone who is insane NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #7

i agree. okieinpain Jun 2012 #11

not until we grow a set MrYikes Jun 2012 #3

I have been trying to get the word out for decades to no avail NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #10

Simple one word answer: MONEY!! retread Jun 2012 #5

No, the reason is corporate money. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #6

you win it as a progressive -- not by 'appealing' to 'left wing voters' {who ever they are} xchrom Jun 2012 #8

I don't think you understand NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #13

i understand just fine. xchrom Jun 2012 #14

Republicans Control What is On the Tee Vee AndyTiedye Jun 2012 #18

Progressive liberals tend to eschew corporate or military submission. raouldukelives Jun 2012 #12

But the real question is: why is this so? TomClash Jun 2012 #15

'privilege of the few' goes before 'needs of the many' pretzel4gore Jun 2012 #16

Republicans want to frame it as if Obama is ultra-left and some socialist Jamaal510 Jun 2012 #17

And some of us will never forget when liberal McGovern won only one state, to Nixon's 49. pnwmom Jun 2012 #19

if youbelieve that, then i got a deal 4 you!! pretzel4gore Jun 2012 #40

I would rather be in the minority KatChatter Jun 2012 #20

The relevant question is why do people vote against their own best interests? tledford Jun 2012 #21

Almost no one votes for their best interests eridani Jun 2012 #31

I was cool with it as long as it was the majority who won elections lunatica Jun 2012 #22

A charismatic leader can overcome the odds. randome Jun 2012 #23

What doesnt make sense is that what a liberal wants isnt that extreme. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #24

If we were dealing with GOP conservatives we would be alright. We are not though NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #25

The extremist right-wing is pulling the status quo to the right rhett o rick Jun 2012 #26

In 2000 we ran Al Gore, a true Centrist and we lost. AJTheMan Jun 2012 #27

You might think quaker bill Jun 2012 #28

As long as big moneyed interest control the entire range of mainstream political debate Douglas Carpenter Jun 2012 #29

This is interesting. CanSocDem Jun 2012 #39

You're overlooking the half of the electorate that doesn't vote.... Scuba Jun 2012 #30

40% don't vote in Presidential elections. joshcryer Jun 2012 #36

Because the Democratic Party has been turned out by corporate pimps kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #32

The only thing rethugs are good at, is stealing elections. Happydayz Jun 2012 #33

The answer to that would be... Spider Jerusalem Jun 2012 #34

What utter nonsense. woo me with science Jun 2012 #35

Because people are brainwashed to vote against their own beliefs and self interest n2doc Jun 2012 #37

If we are going to go back that far, the idea that the electorate is the same is just incorrect. Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #38