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KTM

(1,823 posts)
28. Neither Insulting Nor Normalizing
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 10:34 AM
Apr 2017

Clearly, to some people here any criticism of the Party whatsoever is "insulting." Some people take any opportunity to spin the news in such a twisted way as to say Bernie was "normalizing" or "praising" Trump when he merely agreed that getting China involved over NK was the correct thing to do. (Whether the method to get it involved is one I would agree with or not, it is the right thing.) Or they try to make the fallacious argument that defending Ann Coulter's right to speak is the same as supporting her words and beliefs. That kind of intentionally obtuse spinning, that turns a real event on its head and attempts to falsely characterize what happened, then repeat ad nauseum to smear an opponent, is classic Fox News.

Ive heard the following said... sadly, in the past it was how I saw Republicans vs Democrats. Unfortunately here it more aptly refers to a certain small cadre of Democrats as well:

Some people love their country (party) the way a child loves its mother - "My mommy is the bestest and smartest and whatever she does is right no matter what anyone says!'

Some people love their country (party) the way a mother loves her child - "My child has the potential to be the bestest and the smartest, to be the most amazing... and I am going to do everything I can to teach and admonish and guide her, and will correct her course to see that she lives up to her full potential."


Wanting the Democratic Party to live up to the ideals it was built upon is not insulting. Admonishing it when it behaves counter to its core is not detracting. Telling it is wrong sometimes is necessary to ensure it reaches the true potential we all want and need it to achieve.
K&R! nt riderinthestorm Apr 2017 #1
Message deleted by DU the Administrators List left Apr 2017 #2
That may be his GOAL, but the EFFECT is he depresses the vote for Democrats pnwmom Apr 2017 #3
We can't win without Independents. tecelote Apr 2017 #8
And where is your evidence that he increases the number of Independents who vote Democratic pnwmom Apr 2017 #16
Still talking about the primaries? tecelote Apr 2017 #19
The post you responded to was about the General election, so why R B Garr Apr 2017 #41
It has to be about party support if you want to win. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #36
"it's not about party support...." Adrahil Apr 2017 #51
If people are indeed "depressed", ain't that a reflection of the other candidates... KeepItReal Apr 2017 #12
Exactly!!! chwaliszewski Apr 2017 #4
You may be correct GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #44
Whatever.. BS goes about them by insulting the Democratic Cha Apr 2017 #5
You tell'em, Cha! chwaliszewski Apr 2017 #6
Voter suppression, including purging, removed millions of mostly minority voters from the rolls. pnwmom Apr 2017 #18
I can play the guilt game, too. chwaliszewski Apr 2017 #23
Bernie and Hillary negotiated the Democratic platform together, so if you think they were pnwmom Apr 2017 #48
So the Democratic Party refuses to take Wall Street money OnDoutside May 2017 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author KTM Apr 2017 #26
We had everything in 2008. And then some stayed home and allowed the GOP to take the House and the Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #34
Ah, yes. Jill Stein. *sigh* chwaliszewski May 2017 #56
There was enough votes that Stein took...that would have potentially swung the race to Clinton. Demsrule86 May 2017 #59
Again, you're not getting it. chwaliszewski May 2017 #60
She is spoiler...and a putin girl as well...completely worthless...scammed people about the recount. Demsrule86 May 2017 #62
Wrong. Again. chwaliszewski May 2017 #64
This EffieBlack May 2017 #61
So yay! Let's try a whole new method! Ninsianna May 2017 #53
We betrayed our core principles when we starting cozying up with Wall St. chwaliszewski May 2017 #55
The core principle that's being betrayed here is the commitment to education Ninsianna May 2017 #58
Neither Insulting Nor Normalizing KTM Apr 2017 #28
BS calling the Democratic Party "feeble" and "they can't Cha Apr 2017 #29
Perhaps you dont remember KTM Apr 2017 #31
Those efforts to send plastic spines were utterly stupid mythology Apr 2017 #35
When the criticism is as twisted as Fox News, yeah. KTM Apr 2017 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Apr 2017 #50
Sing it. Couldn't agree more. JudyM Apr 2017 #52
G*O*D*B*L*E*S*S*Y*O*U!!!!!! BigBearJohn Apr 2017 #7
... Highway61 Apr 2017 #27
He should step down from the Outreach role and he should not have participated in the Unity tour. seaglass Apr 2017 #9
OP is wrong and your response shows why. Sanders absolutely accepted a leadership role stevenleser May 2017 #65
Thank you for this post. democrank Apr 2017 #10
Thank you!!! HootieMcBoob Apr 2017 #11
K+Rnt m-lekktor Apr 2017 #13
LOL NurseJackie Apr 2017 #14
His campaign proved that the total breakaway can work. RDANGELO Apr 2017 #15
Reagan did not "crush unions." He dismantled one, the Air Traffic Controllers. WinkyDink Apr 2017 #17
Sure, it's more complicated than what I wrote but I was trying to stay focused Quixote1818 Apr 2017 #39
Don't tell me what to think or where I belong. leftofcool Apr 2017 #20
My apologies, I took that last part off Quixote1818 Apr 2017 #43
Very well said Highway61 Apr 2017 #21
His raison d'etre, like anybody to the left of Genghis Khan , should be to see Trump defeated . DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2017 #22
Very true. That should also apply to the people here QC Apr 2017 #30
I have no interest in primaries, but when I hear someone praising Trump for his awful Korean policy, Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #33
Praise? QC Apr 2017 #38
Yes praise and it has been repeated ad nauseum by the right wing. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #42
China IS in fact the key. panader0 Apr 2017 #45
He said Trump was right...that is what the point is...he could have said the 'key is China'. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #49
Well said. n/t ms liberty Apr 2017 #24
"Who does not agree with the issues above? brer cat Apr 2017 #25
Not this again...people support the issues...Democratic party issues in fact. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #32
The problem is your assumption of a monolithic "They" KTM Apr 2017 #46
Thank you for trying to start an intelligent discussion of issues here. QC Apr 2017 #40
Quixote1818, I am an FDR Democrat as well! lovemydogs Apr 2017 #47
I don't see any simarlity between FDR and Bernie Sanders Expecting Rain May 2017 #54
*******DING DING DING DING DING !!!! ****** FACT FILLED POST !!!! uponit7771 May 2017 #63
Seaglass' #9 nails why your OP has it wrong and obviously so. Nt stevenleser May 2017 #66
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