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In reply to the discussion: Can we give decent burial to the meme that Bernie Sanders didn't appeal to black voters. [View all]JHan
(10,173 posts)65. It's great blacks support liberals isn't it, but did you look at that poll?
Not just the editorial that spun it...Are you sure you want to rely on it? Did you see how many African Americans were polled in that poll? What was the break down not just by race, but also gender and age?
And that poll does not * negate the salient points raised in the original roots article.
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Can we give decent burial to the meme that Bernie Sanders didn't appeal to black voters. [View all]
LongTomH
Jul 2017
OP
Turnout was about the same as it was under John Kerry, which is impressive given that
StevieM
Jul 2017
#195
"Why can't both Hillary AND Bernie be recognized for being supportive of the black community?"
ehrnst
Jul 2017
#47
I know that in Texas the Sanders message did not resonate with African American or Latino voters
Gothmog
Jul 2017
#55
This whole discussion is skirting dangerously close to re-fighting the primaries.....
George II
Jul 2017
#72
I think that many of the people who became Sanders supporters had long argued that most Republicans
karynnj
Jul 2017
#122
Nobody "attacked" Bernie. You need to have your "Bernie Attack Alarm" recalibrated
emulatorloo
Jul 2017
#23
I hear some "progressives" saying we need new, young blood in the D party.
Eliot Rosewater
Jul 2017
#52
I completey agree with you. I don't hate Bernie Sanders, but there was nothing good about 2016
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#86
No, she didn't explain it. You can argue that superdelegates serve a purpose, you can even argue
hughee99
Jul 2017
#169
You could say that about the caucuses too, but the superdelegate system is a much clearer example.
hughee99
Jul 2017
#174
Your inability to make your argument clear should be an indication that your argument might be wrong
hughee99
Jul 2017
#189
Ah, I see what's going on here. You're talking about something different that I am.
hughee99
Jul 2017
#194
In caucuses, people who don't know more about the candidate or the process than the rest of voters
ehrnst
Jul 2017
#199
In my experience, people who complain about binary thinking are almost always trying to paper over
hughee99
Jul 2017
#200
Again, I don't have an issue with the superdelegates, so why would I think someone who supports
hughee99
Jul 2017
#206
You won't say that you don't trust the voters, but have argued that there are reasons
hughee99
Jul 2017
#212
Yes, it was pretty clear as it was absurd. Presidential elections don't include caucuses in any
lunamagica
Jul 2017
#82
"You saw young black people" - WOW. This is how you choose to refight the primary?
bettyellen
Jul 2017
#7
Yeah, Sanders' huge margins of victory in the Deep South primaries last year prove this point!
LonePirate
Jul 2017
#14
Silly me. I thought this thread was about Bernie's appeal to the pre-eminent Dem bloc in the South.
LonePirate
Jul 2017
#53
No, I brought up Bernie's performance in the Deep South. I never mentioned Hillary in my first post.
LonePirate
Jul 2017
#63
When black voters have a choice between Bernie and kamala, who do you think they'll pick?
La Lioness Priyanka
Jul 2017
#25
You're comparing apples and oranges. Bernie didn't appeal to enough black DEMOCRATS
pnwmom
Jul 2017
#29
There's a huge difference between approving of someone during a poll and voting for them.
SaschaHM
Jul 2017
#31
Absolutely. It shouldn't be ignored, but that vote was in the context of the Clinton name being a
JCanete
Jul 2017
#66
they as one uniform block of people? I'm sure there were some people who aren't happy about
JCanete
Jul 2017
#108
I didn't say that. In fact I was very specific about neither of us knowing what his reception would
JCanete
Jul 2017
#128
What I didn't say was that democrats weren't doing this. I did say that it takes criticism to make
JCanete
Jul 2017
#143
I don't know what you mean. I don't have a problem with that criticism at all. I didn't weigh in on
JCanete
Jul 2017
#151
I'm sure there are some people who aren't happy about the statement lumping "black voters" into
ehrnst
Jul 2017
#144
Thank you very much for your input on this subject. I just want to clarify what I was saying.
JCanete
Jul 2017
#150
He has dropped 12% in approval ratings (Morning Consult) in VT since last September.
ehrnst
Jul 2017
#141
news flash: black people are more liberal and Democratic-leaning that white people, on average
geek tragedy
Jul 2017
#32
I have no problem backing a democratic party...that backs the people. That's kind of why, as
JCanete
Jul 2017
#69
Can you give an example of where the Democratic party didn't "back the people?" (nt)
ehrnst
Jul 2017
#119
Any time the Democratic party or its candidates are expedient, rather than truthful, or
JCanete
Jul 2017
#126
If a kumquat runs and gets the nomination and has a D by it's name, gets my vote too.
Eliot Rosewater
Jul 2017
#56
Do these folks know that yet another of Conyers' bills is languishing in committee
JHan
Jul 2017
#77
I think that you use "establishment" as a perjorative and not an actual description.
ehrnst
Jul 2017
#191
That's a totally valid point, and I personally neglected to look at the actual polling data, before
JCanete
Jul 2017
#73
AMEN, I've been black most of my life and I LOVED Bernie...I HATE it when people
The_REAL_Ecumenist
Jul 2017
#80
Never heard that before. I've been fat white guy all of my life. Doubt anything about that is
emulatorloo
Jul 2017
#104
So yeah, nothing I can see in the poll data supports the slant taken by the blog...
JHan
Jul 2017
#89
Thanks again, I completely agree that social and economic justice are impossible to deal with
JCanete
Jul 2017
#153
I still think that the Black woman who posted here explained her position and the
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#181
Bernie didn't appeal at the time of the primaries. He might appeal more in April 2017.
kwassa
Jul 2017
#132