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In reply to the discussion: Can we give decent burial to the meme that Bernie Sanders didn't appeal to black voters. [View all]FairWinds
(1,717 posts)172. Well written and argued . .
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Can we give decent burial to the meme that Bernie Sanders didn't appeal to black voters. [View all]
LongTomH
Jul 2017
OP
Turnout was about the same as it was under John Kerry, which is impressive given that
StevieM
Jul 2017
#195
"Why can't both Hillary AND Bernie be recognized for being supportive of the black community?"
ehrnst
Jul 2017
#47
I know that in Texas the Sanders message did not resonate with African American or Latino voters
Gothmog
Jul 2017
#55
This whole discussion is skirting dangerously close to re-fighting the primaries.....
George II
Jul 2017
#72
I think that many of the people who became Sanders supporters had long argued that most Republicans
karynnj
Jul 2017
#122
Nobody "attacked" Bernie. You need to have your "Bernie Attack Alarm" recalibrated
emulatorloo
Jul 2017
#23
I hear some "progressives" saying we need new, young blood in the D party.
Eliot Rosewater
Jul 2017
#52
I completey agree with you. I don't hate Bernie Sanders, but there was nothing good about 2016
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#86
No, she didn't explain it. You can argue that superdelegates serve a purpose, you can even argue
hughee99
Jul 2017
#169
You could say that about the caucuses too, but the superdelegate system is a much clearer example.
hughee99
Jul 2017
#174
Your inability to make your argument clear should be an indication that your argument might be wrong
hughee99
Jul 2017
#189
Ah, I see what's going on here. You're talking about something different that I am.
hughee99
Jul 2017
#194
In caucuses, people who don't know more about the candidate or the process than the rest of voters
ehrnst
Jul 2017
#199
In my experience, people who complain about binary thinking are almost always trying to paper over
hughee99
Jul 2017
#200
Again, I don't have an issue with the superdelegates, so why would I think someone who supports
hughee99
Jul 2017
#206
You won't say that you don't trust the voters, but have argued that there are reasons
hughee99
Jul 2017
#212
Yes, it was pretty clear as it was absurd. Presidential elections don't include caucuses in any
lunamagica
Jul 2017
#82
"You saw young black people" - WOW. This is how you choose to refight the primary?
bettyellen
Jul 2017
#7
Yeah, Sanders' huge margins of victory in the Deep South primaries last year prove this point!
LonePirate
Jul 2017
#14
Silly me. I thought this thread was about Bernie's appeal to the pre-eminent Dem bloc in the South.
LonePirate
Jul 2017
#53
No, I brought up Bernie's performance in the Deep South. I never mentioned Hillary in my first post.
LonePirate
Jul 2017
#63
When black voters have a choice between Bernie and kamala, who do you think they'll pick?
La Lioness Priyanka
Jul 2017
#25
You're comparing apples and oranges. Bernie didn't appeal to enough black DEMOCRATS
pnwmom
Jul 2017
#29
There's a huge difference between approving of someone during a poll and voting for them.
SaschaHM
Jul 2017
#31
Absolutely. It shouldn't be ignored, but that vote was in the context of the Clinton name being a
JCanete
Jul 2017
#66
they as one uniform block of people? I'm sure there were some people who aren't happy about
JCanete
Jul 2017
#108
I didn't say that. In fact I was very specific about neither of us knowing what his reception would
JCanete
Jul 2017
#128
What I didn't say was that democrats weren't doing this. I did say that it takes criticism to make
JCanete
Jul 2017
#143
I don't know what you mean. I don't have a problem with that criticism at all. I didn't weigh in on
JCanete
Jul 2017
#151
I'm sure there are some people who aren't happy about the statement lumping "black voters" into
ehrnst
Jul 2017
#144
Thank you very much for your input on this subject. I just want to clarify what I was saying.
JCanete
Jul 2017
#150
He has dropped 12% in approval ratings (Morning Consult) in VT since last September.
ehrnst
Jul 2017
#141
news flash: black people are more liberal and Democratic-leaning that white people, on average
geek tragedy
Jul 2017
#32
I have no problem backing a democratic party...that backs the people. That's kind of why, as
JCanete
Jul 2017
#69
Can you give an example of where the Democratic party didn't "back the people?" (nt)
ehrnst
Jul 2017
#119
Any time the Democratic party or its candidates are expedient, rather than truthful, or
JCanete
Jul 2017
#126
If a kumquat runs and gets the nomination and has a D by it's name, gets my vote too.
Eliot Rosewater
Jul 2017
#56
Do these folks know that yet another of Conyers' bills is languishing in committee
JHan
Jul 2017
#77
I think that you use "establishment" as a perjorative and not an actual description.
ehrnst
Jul 2017
#191
That's a totally valid point, and I personally neglected to look at the actual polling data, before
JCanete
Jul 2017
#73
AMEN, I've been black most of my life and I LOVED Bernie...I HATE it when people
The_REAL_Ecumenist
Jul 2017
#80
Never heard that before. I've been fat white guy all of my life. Doubt anything about that is
emulatorloo
Jul 2017
#104
So yeah, nothing I can see in the poll data supports the slant taken by the blog...
JHan
Jul 2017
#89
Thanks again, I completely agree that social and economic justice are impossible to deal with
JCanete
Jul 2017
#153
I still think that the Black woman who posted here explained her position and the
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#181
Bernie didn't appeal at the time of the primaries. He might appeal more in April 2017.
kwassa
Jul 2017
#132