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71. not to rehash in a borderline thread - not that the thread itself is bad

Sat Sep 9, 2017, 05:20 PM

Sep 2017

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if we consider the current state of affairs (trump election) then maybe the silent majority should stop and reflect before rejecting a candidate based on their "no-comprise" principles and instead consider their popularity

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So...what exactly counts as "bashing the party" or "attacking Democrats" these days? [View all] Ken Burch Sep 2017 OP

Change vs. destruction greeny2323 Sep 2017 #1

... NanceGreggs Sep 2017 #2

+1 nt Fresh_Start Sep 2017 #22

Let's call those who want radical changes radicals. We all want to improve everything politically, Hortensis Sep 2017 #34

But to be able to compromise, to have the compromise be worth anything, Ken Burch Sep 2017 #37

Check the bolding, B. If you can understand that, you can understand Hortensis Sep 2017 #40

The problem is that NO Republicans want to create a truly representative government. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #55

NO. The problem of this discussion is those on the farther left who feel that way. Hortensis Sep 2017 #59

i read the bolded text in the two posts clu Sep 2017 #63

You haven't been here long, but I already expected you to twist and disagree. Hortensis Sep 2017 #68

not to rehash in a borderline thread - not that the thread itself is bad clu Sep 2017 #71

Liberal does not equal Democratic, Conservative does not equal Republic0n exfthings Sep 2017 #128

There is a very real disconnect in your presentation and the real world. There is no common ground JCanete Sep 2017 #54

there is a point to be made about electabilty and gerrymandering clu Sep 2017 #72

Well said, totally agree. bettyellen Sep 2017 #42

OK, I agree with what you've said there in the first line. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #84

Oh boy. Cannot believe I am taking the bait GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #3

well played nt msongs Sep 2017 #4

Yeah, and you won't believe what happened! GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #5

I don't have a website and I didn't block you. I truly want to hear what you have to say on this. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #11

About that... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #17

WELL done!! NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #21

Gosh I Love That Smilie Me. Sep 2017 #57

Thank you! I think it's super-cute too! I love... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #78

Actrually, Bernie's economic message wasn't rejected Ken Burch Sep 2017 #58

More about that... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #75

Jesus christ Jackie Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #77

:-D NurseJackie Sep 2017 #79

My local Democratic party is run by Sanders supporters already. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #82

My answers remain the same. Nothing changes. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #83

The message of the primary is not a rejection of all of the ideas of Bernie's campaign Ken Burch Sep 2017 #86

You're focused and obsessed with the wrong things. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #87

They didn't reject ALL, and I'm not trying to force anything on us. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #88

It was all rejected. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #89

Keith isn't saying that those ideas must be given up on. He didn't repudiate them himself. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #92

Rejected. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #93

The fact that you believe that doesn't obligate me to stop posting in support of those ideas. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #96

SSDD (as many others have noted). NurseJackie Sep 2017 #99

I make no false claims/distortions. I don't lie. And I'm not in any "Stein faction". Ken Burch Sep 2017 #100

Stop splitting hairs and playing word games. You're not helping your cause at all.... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #105

Several responses. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #108

Round and round and round we go. Wheeee! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #109

IMO clu Sep 2017 #85

He won't listen. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #90

And I thought I was hard on him! Nice! nt GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #91

I disagree. He didn't get you wrong, I think. MineralMan Sep 2017 #20

Actually no. In the last few days, virtually any critique of anything the party does Ken Burch Sep 2017 #24

Whatever you say, Ken. MineralMan Sep 2017 #25

What was ever hostile in suggesting some change in order to win more votes? Ken Burch Sep 2017 #28

And when I sent you that private message, I simply hadn't seen the sign that you didn't respond Ken Burch Sep 2017 #33

Except for that song that likened Dems to fascists? bettyellen Sep 2017 #43

More accurately, you haven't admitted that you've posted things bashing the party mythology Sep 2017 #46

I've been very careful for a long time now. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #52

Ken, if DU were the Apollo Theatre... FreepFryer Sep 2017 #53

I only did that because I didn't want to break my commitment not to respond in the thread. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #61

Same answer to all three questions: "Just, don't." (n/t) FreepFryer Sep 2017 #64

I wasn't going to. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #69

I'm not angry. Just. stop. (n/t) FreepFryer Sep 2017 #73

I had stopped by then. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #104

I have no interest in this drama of yours. JUST. STOP. (n/t) FreepFryer Sep 2017 #106

Nicely done, GulfCoast66. Control-Z Sep 2017 #7

THANK YOU Skittles Sep 2017 #8

Yes! NT Adrahil Sep 2017 #32

Glad you think "said person" should have run as an independent. n/t yodermon Sep 2017 #35

THIS! And welcome to DU. bettyellen Sep 2017 #44

+1. FreepFryer Sep 2017 #51

You are aware that just checking who Control-Z Sep 2017 #6

The people that cry and scream melman Sep 2017 #9

Where are you Ken?? GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #10

I didn't block you, nor do I have a website. I'll look and see what happened. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #12

Are your middle initials "SSDD"? justhanginon Sep 2017 #13

No. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #26

And you never have posts deleted for being offensive and insulting? Wow. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #81

Actually, I generally haven't. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #107

Actually, yes you have. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #110

I'm saying that people should respond on the merits of ideas-of ANYONE's ideas. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #111

Not all ideas have merit. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #119

Give it a fucking rest. /nt yardwork Sep 2017 #14

Your posts. betsuni Sep 2017 #15

. Squinch Sep 2017 #16

All I've been doing is working for unity Ken Burch Sep 2017 #27

I respectfully disagree.... Adrahil Sep 2017 #36

I've done a number of posts saying he neede to take a stronger antiracist stand in public Ken Burch Sep 2017 #45

i wasn't here in late 2016 clu Sep 2017 #48

"Clinton babykilling and one other thing"? Dude, WTF? Ken Burch Sep 2017 #62

someone mentioned the state of affairs in 2016 clu Sep 2017 #65

Here's a thought: Anything not aimed at WINGNUTS. Like these threads. UTUSN Sep 2017 #18

I do attack the right. It's just that 2016 proved that we can't win by attacking the Right. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #29

When you actually do get to analysis... Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #38

I'll expand on it, then. I base my analysis on the fact that, in the 2016 campaign, Ken Burch Sep 2017 #47

I didn't say to stay with it. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #56

I made no false assumption. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #60

posts of legit news event are exempt as far as i am concerned. mopinko Sep 2017 #19

Imagine extending the courtesy that you want extended to progressives Fresh_Start Sep 2017 #23

I agree with much of that. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #30

I'm not responding to any of your actions Fresh_Start Sep 2017 #39

attacking sitting dems clu Sep 2017 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Skidmore Sep 2017 #49

I also think we have obligations to the downtrodden. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #50

the problem is that white working class voters as a group Fresh_Start Sep 2017 #122

I agree that that has been the pattern. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #124

there was an article published in the last two weeks Fresh_Start Sep 2017 #126

I wholly agree with you that there is no economic justice without civil rights Ken Burch Sep 2017 #129

how is such an attack manifested? clu Sep 2017 #31

I think the line should be drawn between constructive criticism and scorched-earth criticism. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #66

that corrosive statement clu Sep 2017 #67

OK, I agree with all that. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #70

Anything maxrandb Sep 2017 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Sep 2017 #76

Anything that criticizes either Clinton choie Sep 2017 #80

Ain't that the truth surprised ur post not alerted dembotoz Sep 2017 #118

Since when is a particular independent the only person who is qualified to speak on progressive pnwmom Sep 2017 #94

I never argued that Bernie was the only person who could speak on progressive principles. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #97

If Bernie wants to be part of the party's future he shouldn't have left it. pnwmom Sep 2017 #98

I'm not concerned about Bernie as much as I am about winning over his supporters. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #114

The problem is that Bernie himself is making it harder to connect with his supporters, pnwmom Sep 2017 #115

You wonder (disingenuously IMO) why you get blowback? Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #112

There were threads here with titles like "the voters will never elect a socialist Jew". Ken Burch Sep 2017 #113

Some Democrats are more equal than others. nt PufPuf23 Sep 2017 #95

An attack would be like when the (far) left wing of the party went after Kamala Harris. LonePirate Sep 2017 #101

I like Senator Harris and played no part in those attacks. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #103

Any, all suggestion of an open discussion is considered treason left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #102

bold faced lies about the DNC is not "open discussion" and neither are half truth when it comes uponit7771 Sep 2017 #116

Thank you for making my point left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #120

Fair enough. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #130

If you have to ask Trumpocalypse Sep 2017 #117

So, someone can not ask without being threatened? left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #121

Threatened??? Trumpocalypse Sep 2017 #131

Sincerity would be a good, first step LanternWaste Sep 2017 #123

Well said. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #125

How about posting an out of context comment and insinuating the worst betrayal? Hekate Sep 2017 #127

I wish I knew. alarimer Sep 2017 #132