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1. The pledge has been a farce since they snuck in "under God" in 1954. n/t

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Wed Sep 27, 2017, 07:28 PM

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Would we be better off if kids pledged allegiance to the Constitution [View all] Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2017 OP

The pledge has been a farce since they snuck in "under God" in 1954. n/t rzemanfl Sep 2017 #1

(When I say it, I say "One nation under LAW...") lastlib Sep 2017 #25

The "under God" was put in in 1954. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #27

I stand corrected and will corrrect my post. n/t rzemanfl Sep 2017 #35

We would be better off teaching them what is written in the Constitution. shraby Sep 2017 #2

Exactly, a little civics classes would help every one. DK504 Sep 2017 #9

Hear, hear Yupster Sep 2017 #26

I honestly don't think kids think much HeartachesNhangovers Sep 2017 #3

People that swear oaths to defend the Constitution don't think much about it Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2017 #6

"And to our rights, endowed by our Creator"..I have a problem with that one..n/t monmouth4 Sep 2017 #4

It's an allusion to Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2017 #8

We are by our constitution an explicitly secular nation. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #19

No, we have, by our constitution, a federal government that doesn't take sides in religious disputes Igel Sep 2017 #21

The US Constitution says nothing about "taking sides." Moreover, it supersedes all state laws. Your WinkyDink Sep 2017 #33

or establish or prohibit free exercise Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #34

I think we would be better off Mariana Sep 2017 #5

I explained the history of the insertion of the phrase "under God" to my son.. cbreezen Sep 2017 #7

I think mids are presented with a symbol, and not much meaning behind it Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2017 #11

It wasn't a Nazi-like when it started. Igel Sep 2017 #22

We would be better off if we pledged allegiance to each other. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #10

We currently live in a society where blood relatives can't stay friends on Facebook Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2017 #12

Let's stop engaging in mindless loyalty pledges LeftyMom Sep 2017 #13

I think a pledge to the Constitution is less mindless than a pledge to the flag Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2017 #14

How about teaching them about the constitution Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #18

I don't think anyone is "forced" to say the pledge to the flag currently Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2017 #38

No shit. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #17

Here's my "Pledge of Allegiance": Jake Stern Sep 2017 #15

How about just teach them and let them grow up to make their own decisions, rather than having them WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #16

We said it in grade school and had no idea what it was about nor did we care. It was a joke to us. kerry-is-my-prez Sep 2017 #20

Why do we have to "Pledge Allegiance" to anything? jcmaine72 Sep 2017 #23

Hell, I'd be happy if they actually understood it. X_Digger Sep 2017 #24

We don't need a pledge to either. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #28

Bravo. Mind if we share? cpamomfromtexas Sep 2017 #29

we would be better off if we actually taught what these things are and the history of it JI7 Sep 2017 #30

Let's pledge to making the world better for all Cicada Sep 2017 #31

Freedom means NO PLEDGE of ANY KIND. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #32

+1 DLevine Sep 2017 #36

Freedom means you can pledge to whatever you want NobodyHere Sep 2017 #39

How about just learn about the Constitution and forget ritual? bluepen Sep 2017 #37