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Sanders: 'Medicare for All' proposal coming after ObamaCare debate [View all]

Source: The Hill

BY MALLORY SHELBOURNE - 07/02/17 09:43 AM EDT

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Sunday said he will introduce his "Medicare for All" proposal after the Senate completes its debate on ObamaCare.

“We are going to introduce it literally as soon as we’re through with this debate. I don’t want to confuse the two issues,” Sanders told CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Sanders’s statement comes as the GOP works on its legislation to repeal and replace ObamaCare. Sanders has long argued in favor of a Medicare for All plan, which was included in his platform during his 2016 run for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Sanders said lawmakers in the short term should lower the Medicare eligibility age to 55.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/340419-sanders-medicare-for-all-proposal-coming-after-obamacare-debate

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Sanders: 'Medicare for All' proposal coming after ObamaCare debate [View all] DonViejo Jul 2017 OP

Lowering to 55 good first move - Medicare is not Free!! OKNancy Jul 2017 #1

This is a part of "slow and steady" though Tom Rinaldo Jul 2017 #3

Exactly! I thougth the Fight for $15 was pie in the sky until more people started talking it up. femmedem Jul 2017 #80

Yeah, "common sense" never gets us anywhere. It's just corrupt!! All of it! ehrnst Jul 2017 #82

I agree whole heartly turbinetree Jul 2017 #5

FWIW, my supplement is with USAA which is non-profit OKNancy Jul 2017 #6

Wado-------------Thank you turbinetree Jul 2017 #9

I also have a "supplemental' plan that covers most of that 20% pangaia Jul 2017 #8

Wado-------------Thank you turbinetree Jul 2017 #10

I agree sweetapogee Jul 2017 #18

Well said. pangaia Jul 2017 #19

it may be that sweetapogee Jul 2017 #24

".....but I'm sure they would love to have our health care system. " pangaia Jul 2017 #31

ok sweetapogee Jul 2017 #33

Look at life expectancy greymattermom Jul 2017 #38

Ah yes Pragmatic Democrats have lost the House Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #51

the size of your premium could be shrunk if we restructured the tax part. yurbud Jul 2017 #76

Good strategy. forgotmylogin Jul 2017 #2

I'd love to see the CBO score it. nt kristopher Jul 2017 #16

When Medicare was pegged to a retirement age of 65 Tom Rinaldo Jul 2017 #4

If we lower the age to 55, then we must limit or eliminate Part C Advantage Plans crosinski Jul 2017 #7

They cherry pick healthy seniors, by offering zero additional cost plans with very limited networks Kolesar Jul 2017 #25

Yes, it's outrageously confusing! The online sources are all set up to fool you, and they do. crosinski Jul 2017 #30

"once chance to buy Medigap inexpensively when you turn 65" Kolesar Jul 2017 #45

private for profit insurance Corp does that today-cherry pick healthy people off healthcare.gov. Sunlei Jul 2017 #37

I don't know if the people who buy a "nonexchange" policy can get the federal subsidy... Kolesar Jul 2017 #44

some of the search and TV ads say "you may qualify for the government subsidy" The sales person Sunlei Jul 2017 #46

I played around on Healthcare.gov to figure what to do for my sister in law Kolesar Jul 2017 #48

I play around with different incomes & zip codes to see whats offered for different states. :P Sunlei Jul 2017 #49

You can't...that would doom those who are 55 to having to pay 20% Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #55

To the Greatest with you. n/t area51 Jul 2017 #11

This is unrealistic. murielm99 Jul 2017 #12

Definitely grandstanding NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #14

You're correct. It's not at all realistic, and it will not pass. NurseJackie Jul 2017 #23

Unfortunately, with Sanders' personality, this will go nowhere Kolesar Jul 2017 #27

+1 NurseJackie Jul 2017 #34

Of course he is.. Mahalo for your Cha Jul 2017 #29

I agree, muriel. brer cat Jul 2017 #32

Do both, ACA remains & medicaid "insurance" can be added to the policies offered. Sunlei Jul 2017 #36

Being irrational is an important part of getting what you want. harun Jul 2017 #50

"It will not pass" and "we need to improve the ACA" Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #52

completely useless. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #56

It's a gamble, for future elections. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #13

That ball won't be rolling for years and years. You would have to have a real 60 vote majority Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #57

I don't see any taste for real fixes to the ACA. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #59

You have fix it...I don't care what Sen Sanders says. I have heard Sen.Schumer talk about it. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #67

I've heard Schumer say something. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #75

It might have received more exposure if it was introduced BEFORE the republicans' plan. George II Jul 2017 #15

About eight years before LiberalLovinLug Jul 2017 #17

Both the House and Senate versions are introduced every session of congress for the Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #61

Not six months into the session and after the republican version is about to go to the Senate floor. George II Jul 2017 #79

Medicare to 55 was stopped by Lieberman when Democrats had 60 Senators andym Jul 2017 #20

Sherrod Brown pointed that out...eom Kolesar Jul 2017 #26

Sure, and it gives the GOP something to run against. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #58

Well, that would be a good token effort to encourage the conversation. MineralMan Jul 2017 #21

Agreed Bradical79 Jul 2017 #22

Run it through CBO Not Ruth Jul 2017 #28

This is what was proposed 8 years ago. Lower age to 50 & people pay premiums on an income Sunlei Jul 2017 #35

Hope it includes dependents care or a "household" plan. haele Jul 2017 #39

those three words would make the health insurance debate very brief & only have one outcome yurbud Jul 2017 #40

It was a good idea the first time I heard it! Foamfollower Jul 2017 #41

Yep! Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #42

This can't be said enough. murielm99 Jul 2017 #70

Wasn't that almost exactly what HRC proposed? Plus opening up the Fed Health Ins. to the public? nikibatts Jul 2017 #43

basically BOTH Clinton & Sanders want Americans to have quality insurance AND quality health care. Sunlei Jul 2017 #47

Clinton proposed Medicare for all? Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #53

That is just...a waste of time in a GOP controlled congress and is sure to be described Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #54

no it isn't. It provides a clear alternative to the right wing agenda. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #62

No it doesn't. People like the ACA...they understand it...the GOP can demonize single payer. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #65

I see. That must explain why we've only lost the House, the Senate, the Presidency, 35 legislatures. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #66

Gerrymander and the failure of those who whine to vote in midterms...are the reasons we lost the Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #69

amazing. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #73

A health care proposal that won't pass, followed by a health care proposal that won't pass... brooklynite Jul 2017 #60

He's doing both, and both are routinely attacked here. Coalition building requires a clear platform Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #63

Unless there is a discussion of cost, it is just grandstanding. R B Garr Jul 2017 #64

There was a lot of discussion of cost for the CA plan. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #68

You are basically describing Hillary Clinton's plan, which had a lot of R B Garr Jul 2017 #71

No, Clinton still has not proposed a universal single payer "medicare for all" plan. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #72

You mean John Conyers' (Democrat-MI) bill.... R B Garr Jul 2017 #74

Good! Excellent news eom Arazi Jul 2017 #77

yep. And when pols say they are worried about the cost, they mean yurbud Jul 2017 #78

We should do UBI, not this... Casprings Jul 2017 #81