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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. More drivel from that awful "H.A. Otterbein" gal at Politico.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 09:44 AM
Aug 2020
Both Clintons are in, but it’s unclear whether Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez-Cortez will have a speaking role.
Oh good grief! Both Clintons are "in" but AOC's fate is unknown? THAT is article's the sub-head? Otterbein is obviously implying that she's being "snubbed," right?

Or, the "both Clintons" characterization also suggests a belief that "one-Clinton would be okay, but BOTH Clintons? Well that's just a bridge too far! Especially if it means that someone else can't also speak."

As if it weren't already obvious enough by the HUGE photo...she's mentioned by name EIGHT times. Why? What good purpose does it serve for "H.A. Otterbein" to try to stir-up discontent by trying to put everyone on an equal footing with PRESIDENT Bill Clinton, and with our previous nominee SECRETARY Hillary Clinton? Seriously? (Also, why try to denigrate Bill Clinton with a not-so-subtle reference/reminder of Monica Lewinsky.)

Progressive activists said she would help energize the base and bring young people behind Biden.
Clearly, these activists have no clue what the "base" means... they are using that term incorrectly. In reality, the "base" are already energized. That's because the "base" are the individuals who ALWAYS vote for the Democrat. The base don't need to be energized, or cajoled or flattered. We'll be there to support our party EVERY TIME.

Besides... if there are "young people" still out there who aren't voting for Biden (or if they're not yet motivated) then essentially they're a lost cause anyway. As a party, we cannot afford to spend any more time on them. We have precious little time remaining, and that time needs to be focused on getting the MOST NUMBER OF VOTES possible (not trying to soothe and console and validate the far left.) Sorry, that's just the way it is.

We have just two hours per night. I think we're going to be much better off using that time to gain the votes of hundreds of thousands of MODERATE voters and NEVER-TRUMP REPUBLICANS. Why ignore a LARGER group of voters (or risk alienating them) by instead chasing a much, much smaller group of unmotivated or undecided "young people"?

It's just more of Politico's "Democrats in Disarray" bullshit. It's writing like that (and use of the phrase "got-axed'') that reveals H.A. Otterbein's inability to be impartial and avoid rhetoric like that. It's a clear indicator that the writer is pushing the narrative that some individuals are "entitled" to speak (or that they were originally asked) even if it means that others like Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton must "get-axed" instead.

Fact of the matter is this: it's definitely NOT going to be like any other convention. In consideration of the COVID-19 crisis and dangers, and also considering the time constraints there will be MANY high-profile Democrats who are not invited to speak. Reality.

Biden's campaign is doing what's NECESSARY. Why does H.A. Otterbein characterize it "making ruthless cuts" ... obviously implying that the Biden campaign is making rushed and unwise decisions that lack pity or compassion. Why is she to subtly portray the Biden campaign as engaging in snubbing others that she feels are more deserving. Clearly, there are many time-constraints and other logistical concerns that must be taken into consideration. That's not the same thing as being snubbed.

Besides, Sanders and Warren will be speaking... that should be MORE than enough for the far-left members of the party. Remember, the convention is meant for a NATIONAL AUDIENCE. National elections are largely won from the CENTER. As a party, we need to stop "chasing" the far-left voters and instead focus on the moderate, centrist, independent and reasonable Republicans. That's what this convention will be about. The primary is over. We don't need to showcase our most-left politicians.

All I'm saying is that this convention is about BIDEN and it's about defeating Trump... in spite of the writer's efforts, it's not a convention about the far-left. --- Smart Democrats want to convince more people (from everywhere on the political spectrum) to vote for BIDEN and the Democrats. That's obviously the goal of the Biden campaign.

I trust the Biden campaign to make sound and wise decisions. Those who did not support him originally need to the same thing. So-called "journalists" like H.A. Otterbein need to get over the fact that Biden is not a far-left Democrat and need to stop getting so bent out of shape because he doesn't behave like one. They need to stop going to great lengths (as this article does) to create drama-drama-drama... or promote the "Democrats in Disarray" narrative.

Joe Biden and his campaign are out there trying to win a a national election during a very difficult and challenging time... and under nearly impossible circumstances. Yet all we see are people trying to denigrate him, and question his every move because of some obvious resentment that Biden is paying more attention to winning VOTES rather than appeasing only the far-left.

Get over it, Holly!
Kasich DeminPennswoods Aug 2020 #1
Yeah, let's replace him with Steve Schmidt. Mike 03 Aug 2020 #2
Schmidt would be awesome DeminPennswoods Aug 2020 #3
Exactly. This asshole wanted to gut state pensions. we can do it Aug 2020 #8
Trump is in favor of expaning Medicaid under Obamacare? Jose Garcia Aug 2020 #70
You don't want to win Ohio ? Why do you think this is about making friends JI7 Aug 2020 #78
Biden's not winning Ohio DeminPennswoods Aug 2020 #81
Obama won Ohio twice RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #90
And Biden was a big reason he won there JI7 Aug 2020 #93
Ahem... there are plenty of blue collar, aggrieved white folks who are lifelong Dems. Progressive Jones Aug 2020 #100
I hope you're dead wrong. Steelrolled Aug 2020 #102
Seems to me the Lincoln Project has its tentacles creeping into sacred Democratic territory - diva77 Aug 2020 #85
Building a big, sweeping, GOP-smashing alliance is good! Hortensis Aug 2020 #101
Ugh Ana Navarro or Nicole Wallace would be so much better obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #4
Hmm, I wonder if the Harris spot isn't a giveaway of the VP choice? lark Aug 2020 #5
Interesting that Kamala has a slot. Laelth Aug 2020 #6
Presume that all Presidential candidates have been given a speaking slot... brooklynite Aug 2020 #19
More drivel from that awful "H.A. Otterbein" gal at Politico. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #7
Odd take on someone is only a reporter. JoeOtterbein Aug 2020 #9
Odd way to defend her by trying to make it about me instead. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #12
I worried about you. As an R.N. I'm sure you know that undo stress is... JoeOtterbein Aug 2020 #25
This is not about me, Joe. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #27
Good. You seemed a bit stressed. JoeOtterbein Aug 2020 #42
This is not about me, Joe. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #43
Good. JoeOtterbein Aug 2020 #45
This is not about me, Joe. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #46
Ad hominem attack, Argument by Repetition and Needling ehrnst Aug 2020 #89
Not if the person is already obviously "angry" about something that is clearly bothering the person. JoeOtterbein Aug 2020 #91
You seem stressed. You should watch that - it's bad for your health. ehrnst Aug 2020 #95
It's a collection of anecdotes, random quotes and lots of subjective opinion.... George II Aug 2020 #18
That's exactly right... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #22
Post removed Post removed Aug 2020 #28
"Extra bonus: she doesn't live in a house with wheels." What's THAT supposed to mean???? George II Aug 2020 #30
It's a swipe at me. I've made no secret about the fact that I live in mobile home. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #37
That's what I suspected. Shameful. Who gives a flying fuck where or how any DEMOCRAT... George II Aug 2020 #39
I've been thinking of getting one that I can move somewhere safe... JoeOtterbein Aug 2020 #47
+++ still_one Aug 2020 #79
And this is supposed to be a "progressive" ? JI7 Aug 2020 #87
I'm inclined to agree with you JoeOtterbein Devil Child Aug 2020 #68
I doubt it. People here are smarter than they're being given credit for. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #74
And yet again, "you shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark..." LanternWaste Aug 2020 #84
Thank you. That's beautiful to say and much appreciated LanternWaste. Devil Child Aug 2020 #86
+1 GeorgiaPeanut Aug 2020 #50
Politico strikes again! George II Aug 2020 #10
The "Tiger Beat of the Potomac" NurseJackie Aug 2020 #73
Anyone from the squad speaking? Nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #11
Why should they? NurseJackie Aug 2020 #13
Um, to reflect the voices of progressive young America Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #16
Why is that important? Aren't they already supporting our nominee? NurseJackie Aug 2020 #20
The convention's purpose isn't to convince people to vote for Biden, it's to generate enthusiasm Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #40
Why do those "young voters" need that type of validation? NurseJackie Aug 2020 #41
Everyone likes to be acknowledged. JoeOtterbein Aug 2020 #48
To be fair EllieBC Aug 2020 #49
I blame youth soccer. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #57
At least they finally found a good solution to that! EllieBC Aug 2020 #67
If our voters were as "eager" as you think they "should already" be, they wouldn't need a convention Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #54
Ridiculous. That's simply not true. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #56
The convention is an opportunity for the Democratic Party to be front and center nationally.... George II Aug 2020 #58
I'm truly surprised that people don't know (or understand) this. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author TexasTowelie Aug 2020 #80
Sanders is going to speak. Isn't HE the spokesperson of "progressive young America"? George II Aug 2020 #31
Looks like AOC is on the schedule for Tuesday night along with Obama Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #98
they are always speaking..... getagrip_already Aug 2020 #14
I wonder what the average age of our convention speakers will be. Laelth Aug 2020 #15
no link really..... getagrip_already Aug 2020 #21
I think we should feature at least one person under 40. Laelth Aug 2020 #26
I'm pretty sure Pete Buttigieg is speaking. George II Aug 2020 #33
I certainly hope so. n/t Laelth Aug 2020 #36
Oh, boo-hoo! NurseJackie Aug 2020 #23
Is it too much to ask for us to feature one person under 40? Laelth Aug 2020 #24
who says we aren't? getagrip_already Aug 2020 #32
Indeed. I don't know. Laelth Aug 2020 #59
Stop. This pity-party is getting ridiculous. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #53
i just want to thank you.. stillcool Aug 2020 #82
Hi there! NurseJackie Aug 2020 #83
Not having a young person speaking at a Convention every four years isn't why young people.... George II Aug 2020 #29
young people - sometimes teens - do speak - at every convention getagrip_already Aug 2020 #35
You're right, we've always had a pretty good cross-section of speakers at each convention... George II Aug 2020 #38
It's harder to listen when you get older. The ears don't work as well, so often... JoeOtterbein Aug 2020 #44
As this thread demonstrates. Laelth Aug 2020 #61
Aw. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #62
Please. Enlighten me. n/t Laelth Aug 2020 #63
This then explains your posts, yes? LanternWaste Aug 2020 #69
Bazinga! NurseJackie Aug 2020 #76
Uhhhh, can ya speak up a little? JoeOtterbein Aug 2020 #77
The "squad" is not enthusiastically supporting Biden GeorgiaPeanut Aug 2020 #52
Two have not endorsed Biden as of now. George II Aug 2020 #55
And people want the DNC to give them a prime-time speaking slot? NurseJackie Aug 2020 #64
That there is anything to ponder about endorsing Biden is mind boggling. George II Aug 2020 #71
I've been told by people who defend such things... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #72
Looks like AOC is speaking Tuesday night nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #99
Where is Pete? not_the_one Aug 2020 #17
I'm sure he'll be speaking. That should satisfy those clamoring for a speaker under 40. George II Aug 2020 #34
Nobody under 40 cares about Pete. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 #94
Extremely divisive article GeorgiaPeanut Aug 2020 #51
I've never been a Sanders fan in the Presidential Primaries, and I see nothing biased about this... brooklynite Aug 2020 #65
Some of the characterizations of the actions and "reports" are less than objective. For example: George II Aug 2020 #66
HA Otterbein has a style that would fit-in well at the National Enquirer... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #75
Mahalo for that analysis.. ".. Ruthless cuts.. "? Would Cha Aug 2020 #92
Or booing at civil rights icon John Lewis. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #97
I was not impressed with this article either Gothmog Aug 2020 #88
Kasich is a condescending, hard-core misogynistic, opportunistic Greybnk48 Aug 2020 #96
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