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In reply to the discussion: Kasich and Sanders to join forces for a night of unity at Democratic convention [View all]NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)7. More drivel from that awful "H.A. Otterbein" gal at Politico.
Both Clintons are in, but its unclear whether Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez-Cortez will have a speaking role.
Oh good grief! Both Clintons are "in" but AOC's fate is unknown? THAT is article's the sub-head? Otterbein is obviously implying that she's being "snubbed," right?
Or, the "both Clintons" characterization also suggests a belief that "one-Clinton would be okay, but BOTH Clintons? Well that's just a bridge too far! Especially if it means that someone else can't also speak."
As if it weren't already obvious enough by the HUGE photo...she's mentioned by name EIGHT times. Why? What good purpose does it serve for "H.A. Otterbein" to try to stir-up discontent by trying to put everyone on an equal footing with PRESIDENT Bill Clinton, and with our previous nominee SECRETARY Hillary Clinton? Seriously? (Also, why try to denigrate Bill Clinton with a not-so-subtle reference/reminder of Monica Lewinsky.)
Progressive activists said she would help energize the base and bring young people behind Biden.
Clearly, these activists have no clue what the "base" means... they are using that term incorrectly. In reality, the "base" are already energized. That's because the "base" are the individuals who ALWAYS vote for the Democrat. The base don't need to be energized, or cajoled or flattered. We'll be there to support our party EVERY TIME.
Besides... if there are "young people" still out there who aren't voting for Biden (or if they're not yet motivated) then essentially they're a lost cause anyway. As a party, we cannot afford to spend any more time on them. We have precious little time remaining, and that time needs to be focused on getting the MOST NUMBER OF VOTES possible (not trying to soothe and console and validate the far left.) Sorry, that's just the way it is.
We have just two hours per night. I think we're going to be much better off using that time to gain the votes of hundreds of thousands of MODERATE voters and NEVER-TRUMP REPUBLICANS. Why ignore a LARGER group of voters (or risk alienating them) by instead chasing a much, much smaller group of unmotivated or undecided "young people"?
It's just more of Politico's "Democrats in Disarray" bullshit. It's writing like that (and use of the phrase "got-axed'') that reveals H.A. Otterbein's inability to be impartial and avoid rhetoric like that. It's a clear indicator that the writer is pushing the narrative that some individuals are "entitled" to speak (or that they were originally asked) even if it means that others like Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton must "get-axed" instead.
Fact of the matter is this: it's definitely NOT going to be like any other convention. In consideration of the COVID-19 crisis and dangers, and also considering the time constraints there will be MANY high-profile Democrats who are not invited to speak. Reality.
Biden's campaign is doing what's NECESSARY. Why does H.A. Otterbein characterize it "making ruthless cuts" ... obviously implying that the Biden campaign is making rushed and unwise decisions that lack pity or compassion. Why is she to subtly portray the Biden campaign as engaging in snubbing others that she feels are more deserving. Clearly, there are many time-constraints and other logistical concerns that must be taken into consideration. That's not the same thing as being snubbed.
Besides, Sanders and Warren will be speaking... that should be MORE than enough for the far-left members of the party. Remember, the convention is meant for a NATIONAL AUDIENCE. National elections are largely won from the CENTER. As a party, we need to stop "chasing" the far-left voters and instead focus on the moderate, centrist, independent and reasonable Republicans. That's what this convention will be about. The primary is over. We don't need to showcase our most-left politicians.
All I'm saying is that this convention is about BIDEN and it's about defeating Trump... in spite of the writer's efforts, it's not a convention about the far-left. --- Smart Democrats want to convince more people (from everywhere on the political spectrum) to vote for BIDEN and the Democrats. That's obviously the goal of the Biden campaign.
I trust the Biden campaign to make sound and wise decisions. Those who did not support him originally need to the same thing. So-called "journalists" like H.A. Otterbein need to get over the fact that Biden is not a far-left Democrat and need to stop getting so bent out of shape because he doesn't behave like one. They need to stop going to great lengths (as this article does) to create drama-drama-drama... or promote the "Democrats in Disarray" narrative.
Joe Biden and his campaign are out there trying to win a a national election during a very difficult and challenging time... and under nearly impossible circumstances. Yet all we see are people trying to denigrate him, and question his every move because of some obvious resentment that Biden is paying more attention to winning VOTES rather than appeasing only the far-left.
Get over it, Holly!
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Kasich and Sanders to join forces for a night of unity at Democratic convention [View all]
brooklynite
Aug 2020
OP
Ahem... there are plenty of blue collar, aggrieved white folks who are lifelong Dems.
Progressive Jones
Aug 2020
#100
Seems to me the Lincoln Project has its tentacles creeping into sacred Democratic territory -
diva77
Aug 2020
#85
Presume that all Presidential candidates have been given a speaking slot...
brooklynite
Aug 2020
#19
Not if the person is already obviously "angry" about something that is clearly bothering the person.
JoeOtterbein
Aug 2020
#91
It's a collection of anecdotes, random quotes and lots of subjective opinion....
George II
Aug 2020
#18
"Extra bonus: she doesn't live in a house with wheels." What's THAT supposed to mean????
George II
Aug 2020
#30
It's a swipe at me. I've made no secret about the fact that I live in mobile home.
NurseJackie
Aug 2020
#37
That's what I suspected. Shameful. Who gives a flying fuck where or how any DEMOCRAT...
George II
Aug 2020
#39
And yet again, "you shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark..."
LanternWaste
Aug 2020
#84
The convention's purpose isn't to convince people to vote for Biden, it's to generate enthusiasm
Fiendish Thingy
Aug 2020
#40
If our voters were as "eager" as you think they "should already" be, they wouldn't need a convention
Fiendish Thingy
Aug 2020
#54
The convention is an opportunity for the Democratic Party to be front and center nationally....
George II
Aug 2020
#58
Sanders is going to speak. Isn't HE the spokesperson of "progressive young America"?
George II
Aug 2020
#31
Not having a young person speaking at a Convention every four years isn't why young people....
George II
Aug 2020
#29
You're right, we've always had a pretty good cross-section of speakers at each convention...
George II
Aug 2020
#38
It's harder to listen when you get older. The ears don't work as well, so often...
JoeOtterbein
Aug 2020
#44
I'm sure he'll be speaking. That should satisfy those clamoring for a speaker under 40.
George II
Aug 2020
#34
I've never been a Sanders fan in the Presidential Primaries, and I see nothing biased about this...
brooklynite
Aug 2020
#65
Some of the characterizations of the actions and "reports" are less than objective. For example:
George II
Aug 2020
#66
HA Otterbein has a style that would fit-in well at the National Enquirer...
NurseJackie
Aug 2020
#75