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Fina bars transgender swimmers from women's elite events if they went through male puberty [View all] SouthBayDem Jun 2022 OP

And they will have an "open" category, too. pnwmom Jun 2022 #1

And it will be completely separate....but equal, right? NullTuples Jun 2022 #6

The women's category is separate from the men's category. pnwmom Jun 2022 #11

Trans women are women. NullTuples Jun 2022 #13

They are all women. pnwmom Jun 2022 #15

Yep. I find this very disturbing. sybylla Jun 2022 #17

Rulings on this make wonder: LakeArenal Jun 2022 #2

Intersex and non-IS women who naturally have high Testosterone are out, too...one would assume? NullTuples Jun 2022 #9

"Complete their transition by age 12"? WTAF? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #3

No, they have to have started blockers by 12 yo or Tanner Stage 2, whichever is later NullTuples Jun 2022 #7

Maybe they mean that they should be using puberty blockers? n/t pnwmom Jun 2022 #12

Lol in this political reality? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #21

That would be pretty much all of them. keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #4

"Separate, but equal" is not a solution NullTuples Jun 2022 #8

But they're not equal. It gets complicated, eh? keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #10

I don't think this is so easy. Lucky Luciano Jun 2022 #16

So it's time to eliminate the segragation by sex and just like we eliminated serration by race... PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #23

That would be the end of women's sports teams. If Democrats want to lose cis-women's votes, pnwmom Jun 2022 #32

Without "separate but equal", there would be virtually no women's sports. Dr. Strange Jun 2022 #43

How many actual trans athletes are we talking about here Walleye Jun 2022 #5

College scholarships are involved, and that's a substantial amount of money. n/t pnwmom Jun 2022 #14

Then there's the question of why college scholarships are being given out for sports? n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #28

That's a valid question, but that's for another discussion. nt pnwmom Jun 2022 #30

Not this shit again vercetti2021 Jun 2022 #18

Would anyone be permitted to compete in the open category MichMan Jun 2022 #19

We eliminated segregation by race years ago why are we still segregating by sex? PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #25

You want to end women's sports completely? MichMan Jun 2022 #26

What percentage of men and women in schools are actually competing in sports teams? PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #29

Millions and millions compete in both school and other non school related amateur sports. MichMan Jun 2022 #33

The issue is competitive sporting events. You have to decide if sports is about playing PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #35

So no more women in the Olympics, Basketball, Golf, Softball, Track or anything else MichMan Jun 2022 #37

You highlighted what the problem is but you missed the import of what you wrote... PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #39

By eliminating the opportunity for all women? MichMan Jun 2022 #40

Again you need to distinguish competitive athletics from athletics itself. PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #41

My HS had over 1000 students; they should all be allowed to be on the basketball team? MichMan Jun 2022 #47

There shouldn't be only one basketball team. There should be one best team that competes PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #50

If the best team consists of all boys, then you're violating Title IX. Dr. Strange Jun 2022 #52

Your competing team could just consist of the best boys and girls in an equal amount... PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #53

How so? Dr. Strange Jun 2022 #56

Wouldn't a Female hockey player get injured by a hard check into the boards? MichMan Jun 2022 #57

This many compete: EX500rider Jun 2022 #36

Actually, an open category would likely be open Bettie Jun 2022 #55

...the same time that providing just such care to transgender youth is criminalized and outlawed. FreepFryer Jun 2022 #20

Yes, this!!!! n/t rainin Jun 2022 #22

Exactly. It's clear that the right wing politicians did not think things through SouthBayDem Jun 2022 #27

Yup, this sort of sets up the idea of healthcare (trans included) as a protected civil right. (Nt) FreepFryer Jun 2022 #34

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Agree, the trans swimmer who won first place competing womanofthehills Jun 2022 #31

Always easy to make concessions... IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #44

Agree nt Raine Jun 2022 #48

Trans women are women The Protagonist Jun 2022 #38

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It's so nice to see the usual suspects here IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #42

I'd rather be removed now vercetti2021 Jun 2022 #46

I wish they'd get it, but they won't. IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #49

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Here's an example of separate but equal... IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #51

Little League only covers through age 12. Dr. Strange Jun 2022 #62

I agree with FINA kooth Jun 2022 #54

I thought this whole debate was over and done with Rene Richards back in the 1970s tenderfoot Jun 2022 #58

Myth: Trans women retain the same muscle mass and build after hormones IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #59

Locking... again EarlG Jun 2022 #61