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Mosby

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35. You are purposely ignoring decades of negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.

Fri Apr 19, 2024, 04:04 PM

Apr 19

It's Hamas, Islamic Jihad, al Aqsa Martyrs brigade, Hezbollah, Lions Den etc who have sworn never to accept Israel. The leaders of Israel, going back almost 80 years, have tried to reach a permanent settlement, but failed time and again due to Palestinian intransigence. The Palestinians have turned down the Peel plan (1937) the Partition plan (1947), the offer to transfer land after the 6 day war, Camp David in 2000, Taba in 2001, the olmert plan in 2008 and the road map plan.

The sham of the British mandate is that they gave the Palestinian half away to the Hashemites. That wasn't the plan. They created this mess.

Eta - the reason the Palestinians can't just unilaterally create a country is because it violates standing international law, per UNSCR 242 and 338.

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US blocks Palestine from becoming full member of the United Nations [View all] BumRushDaShow Apr 18 OP

Cool TexasDem69 Apr 18 #1

Untill they dump the anti-Isral and corruption... Archae Apr 18 #2

Why? claudette Apr 18 #3

Last I checked, they're not a country. paleotn Apr 18 #5

Because Israel claudette Apr 18 #6

And home to incredibly corrupt governments. paleotn Apr 18 #7

Thank you. William769 Apr 19 #19

Corruption? So is Netanyahu's government and his far-right Likud party tornado34jh Apr 19 #23

Whataboutism. paleotn Apr 19 #25

That is the position of the Likud Party tornado34jh Apr 19 #28

Accountability. AloeVera Apr 19 #30

One of the responsibilities of a country is making sure your citizens aren't attacking other nations ripcord Apr 18 #9

Well to be fair it is usually the things that will pull in more viewers that get reported by the news media. cstanleytech Apr 18 #10

Ask Armenia how that is going with Azerbaijan tornado34jh Apr 18 #15

Or Russia or the US or Pakistan/India or Iraq for that matter! LeftInTX Apr 19 #44

If we went by that logic tornado34jh Apr 19 #49

neither does Egypt and Jordan jg10003 Apr 18 #13

Not since 1967. Darwins_Retriever Apr 19 #32

Perhaps President Biden sees the wisdom sarisataka Apr 18 #8

That kind of sounds like a few counties in some red states. cstanleytech Apr 18 #11

Isn't it strange how no one EllieBC Apr 18 #14

Probably pressured by the Israeli government tornado34jh Apr 19 #16

NO, It's NOT a "disgrace".. Team Biden Knows What Cha Apr 19 #20

Good. Oopsie Daisy Apr 18 #4

Good. Palestine is not a country, and the Gaza Strip is governed by Hamas, a terrorist organization. nt SunSeeker Apr 18 #12

Exactly what I would have said. murielm99 Apr 19 #18

You do know that Hamas doesn't control the West Bank, right, or do you forget that? tornado34jh Apr 19 #21

I didn't forget jack shit. Drop the snark. I explicitly said Hamas controls the Gaza Strip. SunSeeker Apr 19 #26

We'll never know what moniss Apr 19 #29

So well-said. AloeVera Apr 19 #31

It is Hamas and the folks chanting "river to the sea" who think Israel shouldn't exist. SunSeeker Apr 19 #34

Netanyahu and the far right moniss Apr 19 #39

And Netanyahu would almost certainly have been pushed out by now had it not been for Hamas' 10/7 atrocity. SunSeeker Apr 19 #40

I doubt that is the case despite the moniss Apr 19 #42

Well it's not going to happen now that Israel is at war, thanks to Hamas. nt SunSeeker Apr 19 #43

It's a fool's game. AloeVera Apr 20 #58

You are purposely ignoring decades of negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians. Mosby Apr 19 #35

Not ignoring the gaslight negotiations that have been going on forever moniss Apr 19 #38

That is totally wrong. Joe Biden cares about the people of the middle east, and Americans. SunSeeker Apr 19 #37

The IDF has moniss Apr 19 #41

YOU said Biden doesn't care about the middle east. SunSeeker Apr 19 #45

You said "Americans" moniss Apr 19 #46

If you meant "the wealthy and corporations" and not the US/Biden, then SAY SO. SunSeeker Apr 19 #47

I didn't think it was necessary moniss Apr 19 #48

Biden is nobody's puppet. That would be Trump, who you are assisting with your rhetoric. nt SunSeeker Apr 19 #50

OK moniss Apr 19 #51

Israel don't have extremist groups/people? Look again tornado34jh Apr 19 #54

Yes, there are extremists in Israel, like every country. And Hamas empowered them with Hamas' 10/7 atrocity. SunSeeker Apr 19 #56

They existed long before Hamas ever became an issue tornado34jh Apr 20 #62

If Palestine were a country iemanja Apr 19 #33

Excellent! Tarheel_Dem Apr 19 #17

As it should at this point in time. Biden is right. nt TeamProg Apr 19 #22

It remains the US view that the shit that's been failing for 30 years should continue to fail Prairie Gates Apr 19 #24

If the territory isn't Palestine, and no_hypocrisy Apr 19 #27

Its disputed land pending resolution of UNSCR 242 and 338. Mosby Apr 19 #36

No surprise Mz Pip Apr 19 #52

Reward for bad behaviour. AloeVera Apr 19 #55

Israel went through hell in the 1940's. Why is that always forgotten? jimfields33 Apr 19 #57

Ethnically cleansed? Zeitghost Apr 20 #59

I am not going to argue history... AloeVera Apr 20 #60

So maybe Zeitghost Apr 20 #61

Not a chance. AloeVera Apr 20 #63

What they want is the destruction of Israel Zeitghost Apr 20 #64

Well, THIS is very enlightening. N/T AloeVera Apr 21 #65

Maybe it's time for a change and make it so vetos can be challenged with a secret vote by UN members? cstanleytech Apr 19 #53